Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
You're the one making the assumptions. Get lost troll.
Now I know you’re a paid troll!
Yes, Ayers is in substantial control of Annenberg’s operations.
Maybe that’s because he’s a regurgitated troll.
I’ve pretty much concluded that his problem is that his ambition in life was to be captain of a college debate team. He likes argument for argument’s sake. Never mind that he’s helping to prop up a potential tyrant.
William Ayers runs most of Annenberg.
Can you substantiate that he runs the Annenberg public policy center as opposed to the educational project in Chicago? And if you maintain Ayers runs the public policy center, why did Vice President Cheney direct the public to the Fact Check site?
Oh, but he’s a sustaining member of the conservative movement! (see #834)
I haven’t posted anything that you have disproven. I’ve been civil in my tone. How does that make me a troll? Because I can testify that I can’t recall babies I’ve delivered? Because I correct misunderstandings of HIPAA laws?
If I’m wrong about the HIPAA laws, please show where.
I believe Obama was born in the United States, a child of the tooth fairy and easter bunny.
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That explains why he is a hybird.
Nice try, you keep changing the subject and posing irrelevant questions.
You spend hours on a political forum and then claim you don’t like to discuss politics, sure....
But your manipulations don’t deflect us from the original argument.
0bama is a fraud, and hasn’t produced sufficient documentation to prove he is a natural born citizen.
The only live witness that claims they were at his birth say it happened in Mombassa - now I don’t think his grandmother can very easily be passed off as mistaken - after all, she probably doesn’t have any other WHITE daughters-in-law, so if she says she was there, I would be inclined to believe her.
You can obfuscate, and change the question all you want - it won’t change the fact that it appears that 0bama can’t prove he is a natural born citizen.
Prove it.
Ummmm, actually Barak Sr. married another white gal after he divorced Stanley Ann.
I didn't just provide my opinion. I provided a decision by the United States Supreme Court that specified what was excluded by "under the jurisdiction".
What facts have you provided?
Do you not care about what is really true and what isn't, or do you just want to believe what you like and not have that disturbed? If that's what you want, trying to debate people on the internet is probably a bad idea.
That is simply not true. Stop making stuff up.
You're grasping at straws. They alternate the seal design from year to year. This isn't something that is done arbitrarily. For example, the border design is alternated from year to year. The border on a 2007 CoLB is different from one in 2008. The borders and seals are supposed to match for the corresponding year. Again, alternating of designs isn't done for arbitrary reasons.
So you say. Now substantiate your assertion.
Because it's only a couple of paragraphs and I consider keeping that small amount of context, and having it right there without having to follow a link, a good thing. I can't see why it should be a bad thing.
Please direct me to the the specific place where this supposed proof of yours resides.
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