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Obama plans 'Civilian National Security Force'
The Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Salena Zito

Posted on 11/01/2008 7:49:38 PM PDT by Salena Zito

Barack Obama in his own words explaining how he wants to have a 'Civilian National Security Force' that will be "just as powerful, just as strong and just as funded" as our military.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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To: antonia

You are correct. It does not seem like this civilian security force would be armed. It would be like a group of experts in their field being made available to restore a city hit by a terror attack....restored with liberal controls.

But there is nothing to stop such a group from being expanded by the next administration to become armed.

This is exactly how communism took over Hungary, Czechoslovakia, etc. Slow, incremental changes followed by a single, violent takeover where the ‘useful idiots’ like Obama would be executed.

Freepers are understanding the long-term rammifications of Obama’s plan. I doubt he would be able to take this country over. Instead, he will put the building blocks in place that can be used by the next, more liberal administration.


281 posted on 11/02/2008 2:47:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Salena Zito; The Californian

I would guess that they will be called the Social Services. The SS for short.

Obama is sticking to the script rather well.


282 posted on 11/02/2008 2:52:20 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Salena Zito

Watch a movie called “The Lives of Others” it’s a German film that won an Oscar. It will show you what life might be like in an Obama-nation. Rush Limbaugh has recommended it numerous times


283 posted on 11/02/2008 2:56:01 AM PST by NCBraveheart (Love Socialism?VoteObama,Love Big Govt vote McCainLove Freedom..vote Barr)
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To: NCBraveheart

ping for liberty


284 posted on 11/02/2008 4:20:10 AM PST by mick
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To: Mr. Silverback

Does anyone know WHERE in the infomercial this is mentioned??? I am trying to figure out why is this an issue all of a sudden out of the clear blue sky. I watched the video on youtube of his infomercial, and I didn’t see anything about the security force. I know there is the video from july, but trying to find the new footage?!

This is important folks!!! If we can get this onto Oreilly or the MSM somehow, IT IS GAME OVER for Obama!!! I honestly think this will be the fatal blow that will turn the middle class against him...

EVERY ONE OF YOU: Email this story to O’reilly, Hannity, Ingraham, Lavinn, Limbaugh, etc etc!!!


285 posted on 11/02/2008 4:30:36 AM PST by JoeTheMarine
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Does anyone know where in the infomercial Obama mentioned this national security force? I looked through the youtube of it and couldn’t find it. Either way, ALL OF US need to email this story to all the big guys..ie..Hannity, Oreilly, Ingraham, Lavinn, Limbaugh, etc etc...This can be THE defining blow against him if we can get it into circulation.


286 posted on 11/02/2008 4:30:36 AM PST by JoeTheMarine
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To: Salena Zito
This went right over my head when I originally heard Obama announce this element of his plans.

However I am now mindful of "RED AZALIA" by Anchee Min.

  This is an honest and frightening memoir of growing up in Communist China during the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s and 1970s. Min describes a systematically deprived Shanghai childhood (the family was forced into successively meaner quarters); school days spent as a member of the Red Guard, spouting the words of Chairman Mao and being forced to publicly betray her favorite teacher; and later teen years on a work farm in order to become a peasant because peasants were the only true vanguard of the revolution. The farm years, with their backbreaking workdays and heartbreaking, lonely nights, exemplify the grinding insanity of the Cultural Revolution, the terror and dehumanization it inflicted on ordinary Chinese. Eventually, Min was tapped by the party to be in the propaganda film Red Azalea, during the making of which she suffered more humiliation and political subterfuge. What is so extraordinary is that Min managed to keep a tight hold on her spirit. Her autobiography is not just a coming-of-age story or history lesson; it is a tale of inner strength and courage that transcends time and place. 

287 posted on 11/02/2008 5:59:37 AM PST by Phil V.
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To: American in Israel

Yeah, scary, isn’t it!


288 posted on 11/02/2008 6:19:19 AM PST by The Californian
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To: Salena Zito

I don’t see welfare slobs getting off their fat butts, carrying 70 lb. packs and making a landing in Texas.

Are you expecting a brigade of New York metrosexuals to head down south and hit Georgians over their heads with their purses?

There is no nobama security force. There will never be a nobama security force. It’s his phantom Sun Tzu army. Leftists in America are cowards.

There are no Jeremiah Chamberlains in the liberal northeast. They all left 100 years ago. Quit falling for this crap.


289 posted on 11/02/2008 6:27:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: Salena Zito

well u can bet this whites in this country will pay a high price for an obama presidency. even FOX News has handed it to barry.


290 posted on 11/02/2008 6:31:42 AM PST by dalebert
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To: staytrue

****the only real problem would be the US submarine fleet. Obama would probably not be able to have enough people trained to run a sub to take over the trident’s nukes.****

Which is why this is not ultimately about a civil war that is won or lost per se. This is about dividing America so that it becomes weak as it wars against itself.


291 posted on 11/02/2008 6:59:58 AM PST by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You are correct. It does not seem like this civilian security force would be armed. It would be like a group of experts in their field being made available to restore a city hit by a terror attack....restored with liberal controls.

Not to argue, but if they're unarmed,why are they part of his defense proposal and not his homeland security proposal?

292 posted on 11/02/2008 7:12:46 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: JoeTheMarine

He didn’t mention it in the infomercial as far as I know. He mentioned it in speeches in July. Not only does the source article for this thread contain the video clip, but you can find it on YouTube as well.


293 posted on 11/02/2008 7:27:31 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Salena Zito
"Civilian National Security Force", eh? Well, I admit it sounds a lot classier than "Crips", "Bloods", "MC-13", etc.

So this is the way that Nappy Nazi, America's soon-to-be Pimp-In-Chief, legitimizes his gangbanger supporters. By giving them official police powers to (among other atrocities) disarm those who might tend to oppose the upcoming repeal of the Second Amendment.

294 posted on 11/02/2008 7:34:31 AM PST by PermaRag
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To: sergeantdave
There are no Jeremiah Chamberlains in the liberal northeast. They all left 100 years ago. Quit falling for this crap.

First, not to nitpick, but it's Joshua Chamberlain.

Second, Sabina Wurmbrand wrote that when she warned friends in Romania that the Communists were going to take over, they responded by telling her that there weren't enough communists in the country to fill a football pitch. Sabina was nearly worked to death in a penal camp and her husband was beaten and tortured in prison for 14 years.

It can happen here, especially if step one is to take all the firearms.

295 posted on 11/02/2008 7:35:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: MichiganConservative

I’m haunted by the same feeling and with great concern for my family.


296 posted on 11/02/2008 7:49:35 AM PST by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. The Constitution Dammit.)
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To: Salena Zito

Of all the things that this socialist has hidden, said in the past, denied to date, associated with then disassociated with, THIS by far is the MOST frightening thing I have ever seen.

In all my days I NEVER thought anyone would promise to walk brown/black/blue shirts through our country and the population would stand for it.

It just amazes me that he is even in contention for POTUS after making this plan public.


297 posted on 11/02/2008 7:57:48 AM PST by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: Salena Zito

posse comatitis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

An end run around this law?


298 posted on 11/02/2008 8:22:55 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as President and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: Salena Zito

Here’s the permalink:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/show_comments.php?entry_id=3469


299 posted on 11/02/2008 8:25:51 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as President and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
This WILL BE the "well regulated militia" that will retain the right to keep and bear arms.

. . . join or surrender . . . .

300 posted on 11/02/2008 8:31:02 AM PST by Phil V.
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