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9 PM Eastern: St. Louis Vice Presidential Debate Live Thread
c-span.org ^ | October 2, 2008

Posted on 10/02/2008 1:48:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, folks. Let's keep an eye on this debate and see if Sarah can beat down hairplug.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008debates; 2008veep; biden; debates; election; electionpresident; elections; gaffemachine; jumpingthegun; mccainpalin; palin; palinattacks; palinping; palinpraise; sarahpalin; vpdebate; whenbidenspeakszz; whenbidenspeakszzzz
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To: Lucky9teen

Oh okay I wasn’t sure LOL!


3,501 posted on 10/02/2008 9:12:34 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: prov1813man

I thought Palin was nothing short of spectacular!

1. She was smiling throughout as if she was enjoying herself. Biden seemed angry and ashen many times except when he flashed his peroxide teeth fake smile.

2. Hers was a message of optimism and the so-called party of “hope” represented by O’biden was whining about how bad things are.

3. She got in some substantial digs and did so very elegantly and with humor!

was blown away with how well she did!

Afterwards, ABC had its so-called “Republican commentators” (no doubt PLANTED by them) who said they thought Biden won!!! I couldn’t believe my ears!! Truly disgusting. This was an historical debate in which for the first time in history a woman really locked horns with a seasoned old senator and ABC pretended like it was a non-event.

Favorite Biden gaffe: “I’ve been in the Senate 35 years and I’m not going to change.”

LOL!


3,502 posted on 10/02/2008 9:12:43 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam ("Celebrate Diversity! Look at the world with all it's problems - Isn't "diversity" so beautiful?)
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To: goldstategop

I’m with you. It ain’t over ‘til it’s over. I’m looking forward to next week’s debate.


3,503 posted on 10/02/2008 9:12:47 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: tioga

Hope your son’s okay ...


3,504 posted on 10/02/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: FlyVet

One of our old servers melted down under the 32,000 Kbps load, then they all went on overload. Took John a few minutes to clear it up, but he got FR back up to speed, sans the dead server.


3,505 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: TheCornerOffice

Post 1838 caught it.


3,506 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:22 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: Shelayne

They are replaying it on CSPAN now.


3,507 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:23 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: PhiKapMom; okie01
Let’s put it this way — Fred Thompson and Rudy said it was the best appearance in a debate they ever saw so I am in GREAT company with my analysis of the debate.

Well I think it's great that people are seeing it your way. Personally, I thought Michael Graham at National Review Online said it well:

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I'll admit it—Joe Biden is my kind of debater. Dispassionate and disconnected, he speaks to my inner wonk. He rambles, he extrapolates, he uses obscure references. And tonight he hit harder and with more detail than Gov. Palin. So Joe Biden won the Michael Graham debate card.

Unfortunately for Sen. Biden, Michael Graham is not a typical American. Not even a "typical white person." (I refer to myself in the third person as a sign of solidarity with Scrappy Joe, who repeatedly did so tonight)

For a typical American who had been convinced by the Partisan Press that Sarah Palin is an illiterate redneck who didn't know Afghanistan from Alabama, she won this debate. She debated a geezer from the Washington establishment to a standstill and forced him into several erroneous statements (I would say "false," but Sen. Biden talks so much without knowing what he's talking about, he could be clueless rather than malicious).

Biden did vote for a war resolution. McCain did not vote, as Biden claimed, for the Obama tax hike. And Obama did absolutely nothing about the subprime mess at Fannie Mae except take record amounts of their money.

Sarah Palin wasn't brilliant. She wasn't able to adlib like Sen. Biden could to score additional points. She let quite a bit of Biden nonsense go unchallenged.

But six weeks into the race, she went toe-to-toe with a guy who's run for president twice, and she held her own and even pushed him around a few times.

For the average voter, content was a wash which means this ended up as a personality contest. Which means she wins.

And that means John McCain goes into the next debate on a level playing field. She didn't leave him in a hole.

Which merely quickens the pace at which the presidential race returns to what it was always going to be: Either a referendum on George W. Bush (Obama wins) or Obama (McCain wins).

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3,508 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:40 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: retrokitten
OMG. The Luntz panel just said she won!

I saw that :-D

And later Alan Colmes said well, uh, expectations were so low she had to look good. LOL!! That's about as close we'll get to Colmes admitting defeat :)

3,509 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:49 PM PDT by silent_jonny (it's O-ver)
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To: 1066AD

The Death of McCain/Palin was greatly Misunderestimated by the Establishment press again. This election has just been turned around.

Pray for W, McCuda and Our Troops


3,510 posted on 10/02/2008 9:13:52 PM PDT by bray (It's the Corruption Stupid)
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To: ReneeLynn

If someone lies, you have no idea what they are going to say, therefore, you are unprepared. Sarah had to stick to the truth, and couldn’t shred him up, because what he was saying was goop. I think the average American will say, we saw an argument, and it was a fair fight.


3,511 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:04 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: conservativepoet

“Luntz’s group on Fox had an immediate and very favorable response to her.”

I saw that. And I flipped to CNN (unfortunately) immediately afterwards and saw Soledad O’Brien with a similar crowd. They had exactly the opposite reaction — they all thought Biden won the debate.

I’m more inclined to give Fox the benefit of the doubt, but it shows you just how biased CNN is.


3,512 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:18 PM PDT by jddqr
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To: 1066AD

What time will she be in Dallas tomorrow?


3,513 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:18 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Palin quoted Reagan. Biden quoted his Dad at the end.

Big difference right there...


3,514 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:19 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam ("Celebrate Diversity! Look at the world with all it's problems - Isn't "diversity" so beautiful?)
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To: myprecious
Now Joe Biden has to go home and explain to all his friends how he got his butt kicked by a girl.

By a girl wearing glasses, a dress, and great looking high heeled pumps

and she made him cry

3,515 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:24 PM PDT by adversarial
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To: longtermmemmory

I want the Republican Party to buy the satellite channel to promote all the Republican candidates!


3,516 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:26 PM PDT by kcbonds
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To: warsaw44
Morris didn’t comment on her shoes or anything like that, did he?

No, but, he did say that the biggest loser tonight was Hilary Clinton. He said there's a new female politician in town, or something like that. lol

3,517 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:36 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: BIOCHEMKY

- Talked again about freedom, about the freedom our soldiers are fighting for and the freedom we have at home.

- Asked all the armed service personnel, and families with sons and daughters in the service, present in the Arena to stand and be recognized.

- Low life invaders disrupt the rally. Sarah turns and addresses them. “Yes our armed forces are fighting for your freedom too!”

...more....


3,518 posted on 10/02/2008 9:14:44 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I wanted to see the condescension from Biden. I may do that on the next debate.
3,519 posted on 10/02/2008 9:15:21 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Okay, so a fair number of people pay that much. Didn't realize it was that expensive. That's a policy offered at work for about $1,200/yr, and that's why I thought $12k seemed like an awful lot.
3,520 posted on 10/02/2008 9:15:36 PM PDT by y2gordo
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