Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Now you’re being absolutely ridiculous. You once again claim to recognize that the child has rights, but you effectively ignore the logical conclusions of that recognition.
A woman’s body does change after pregnancy, yes, but once again, assuming we accept your relativism as gospel, how in the world does that outweigh the child’s interest in life? There is a reason that we punish a person much more severely for murder than for giving someone else a scar. This is really not that hard a concept.
Haven’t you realized that liberals HATE yes/no or multiple choice questions where they have to give an answer without a “nuanced” explanation?
That’s cause he/she is anti-life...
Other than saying “it’s a woman’s choice” for 35 years the abortion-on-demand crowd have little other rhetoric...
and very little practice in reasonable debate...
They have had 35 years to bully pro-life people into silence so Just Sayin and his/her ilk have not had to use any other argument...
9-5-06 :
Giuliani 45.1% 2,883
Romney 28.2% 1,804
Sit it out 21.5% 1,373
McCain 5.3% 336
100.1% 6,396
Wonder “Who”...;0)
Live mice?
His problem revolves around the fact that he admits the unborn child has rights. There’s no strong way to go from there to his conclusion, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t trying. He’d be far better off just saying the liberal line of “a fetus has no rights”.
Number 8945 is flat out insane!
Yes I did...;0)
Current undead thread title...there really is an undead thread group....
It’s like dealing with an especially slow child. You get the sense that they are probably well-intentioned but simply don’t have the intellectual horsepower to really grasp the situation.
“They have had 35 years to bully pro-life people into silence so Just Sayin and his/her ilk have not had to use any other argument...”
AND it’s endless..
Now I know what happened to all the ‘inmates’ when they closed the asylums.
They became democrats!
“9-5-06 :”
That’s a little dated. I know who it won’t be :)
Elyse, Abortion destroys a growing life. I want to see that practice come to an end. I stated a way I would like to see that happen without removing choice entirely from one who is pregnant.
Why would we employ a ‘wrong’, trying to solve a wrong, if we could employ a ‘right’(read: correct) instead?
I would agree with you that abortion is seeking to employ a wrong to solve a wrong.
Listen closely now OK.....That is why I have said that I don’t find any of the choices today acceptable. This is why I seek another alternative. This is why I say that just a simple outright ban on abortion wouldn’t solve everything and only reverses the situation, thus leaving us with the same conflit we have today.
If you read what I wrote when this whole thing got started, you would see that I want an outcome that ends this conflict, not just flips it around the other way.
If life is retained and choice is retained, where is your opposition?
“One would have to accept that as a right. To do that, one has to admit that one person has the right to decide what happens to another’s body. Are you prepared to cede your own right to your own body on that note? If yes, is it your place to force everyone else to do so because you would?”
But I did I was so happy swimming in my own “pool” hiccupping and tickling Mommy from the inside, I did not want to leave till Christmas...
Who would?...What a life... It was great..
Thanks Mom...I love you....
I do realize that and don't really expect a yes or no anser to my question. I'm just having a little fun watching him dance.
;’}
“Listen closely now OK....”
Getting irritated it would seem. Interesting post # as well.
I don’t know, but I’ve decided to post to it just encourages it to keep going
I think this is a fairly accomplished agent provocateur - and a troll, who is getting their jollies trying to tie this thread up in knots
The only problem is JS is a one note song, and rather than infuriating, he is BORING
Lets ignore him and maybe he will take his delusions and play someplace else.
Yep.
Which is why I said what I did here...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=8896#8896
I ran across it by accident,,,the numbers do tell the tail.
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