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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Spiff

The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse. — James Madison


8,081 posted on 04/24/2007 6:46:39 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Spiff
Wow, that's some quote.

I think the back of the FR mafia is breaking, if not broken.
8,082 posted on 04/24/2007 6:46:56 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: Sam Hill

What I am learning is that “banning” is not some modern invention to throw out rudy supporters.

This site has a history of banning people who were long-time major contributers.

Which just means that people change, get different priorities, get tired of following rules, and off they go. Not to death or to a better place, they are still around, just not posting with their old screen names.


8,083 posted on 04/24/2007 6:48:58 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Power is not alluring to pure minds. - Thomas Jefferson


8,084 posted on 04/24/2007 6:49:17 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

“To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last — but eat you he will.”—Ronald Reagan


8,085 posted on 04/24/2007 6:51:01 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Spiff

“Yes, I know you would. Now, when would a conservative ever even consider voting for Satan?”

Game, set, and match.


8,086 posted on 04/24/2007 6:51:18 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Peach

Heheh...


8,087 posted on 04/24/2007 6:51:57 PM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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To: rbmillerjr
Do I smell rope burnin in here again???

I'm beginning to understand the group dynamics behind lynching.

8,088 posted on 04/24/2007 6:52:10 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: beandog

Marking my place for morning. Don’t anybody have to much fun while I’m gone.


8,089 posted on 04/24/2007 6:52:32 PM PDT by beandog (If exercise is so good for you, why does every bone in my body hurt)
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To: merry10
This is what you said:

I think that with immigration, we perhaps SHOULD look at a guest worker program. Because I do not see Americans willing to be bent over from sun up to sun down willing to pick strawberries and lettuce.
You're pretending that the Mexicans were imported because Americans stopped picking produce. Bull! American's stopped picking produce because the Mexicans flooded the market and dropped the wages down to third world levels.

Now you're advocating making it a permanent, legally sanctioned venture. Whose jobs are you hoping to give to the Mexicans next? Yours?

8,090 posted on 04/24/2007 6:53:07 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: cicero's_son

Matthew 23:1-36. Jesus didn’t call his detractors “assholes” but full of rotten corpses, blood on their hands, snakes, worthy of hell, leading others to hell, etc. Pretty strong stuff for his forum. But you probably were just asking rhetorically, huh?


8,091 posted on 04/24/2007 6:53:47 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Spiff
MadIvan is wideawakes?
Deleted snarky comment
8,092 posted on 04/24/2007 6:53:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: beandog

See you around post 8700 or so.


8,093 posted on 04/24/2007 6:54:00 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Luke21

I saw that move coming.


8,094 posted on 04/24/2007 6:54:00 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

“I saw that move coming.”

That was a wicked baseline smash.


8,095 posted on 04/24/2007 6:54:48 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Shyla

bookmark


8,096 posted on 04/24/2007 6:54:56 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: jedward

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.

James Madison


8,097 posted on 04/24/2007 6:55:31 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Luke21

LOL...my thoughts exactly.


8,098 posted on 04/24/2007 6:55:37 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Sam Hill

I think Keyes would have been a disaster as President, but while I’m glad Bush was elected, a lot of the complaints about him in those threads have kind of been born out.

Kind of scary in fact. Other than the “cokehead” argument, it’s pretty sound.

Oh well. I wasn’t around here in 2000.


8,099 posted on 04/24/2007 6:56:49 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Spiff
She's a Fred Thompson supporter,

Not exactly, Howlin is an admitted Rudy supporter.

8,100 posted on 04/24/2007 6:57:24 PM PDT by X-FID
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