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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: RobFromGa
We can agree on many of the objectives, and still disagree with the tactics.

What an excellent comment. Not only is it true here, it is true everywhere on every possible subject. Even in parenting, for that matter. Wow, good line.

17,901 posted on 05/02/2007 9:18:34 AM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson; jedward; All

Thanks for the bump, SJB, but my post got yanked!

It was a simple prayer for Jim Robinson, that God would give him wisdom, and that God would bless our leaders whether they be democrat or republican.

Praying for our country and Free Republic is probably the best thing I can do right now. I’ll continue to read through this thingie between Jedward and EV, but something has gone awry in the spiritual plane if prayer posts are being yanked.


17,902 posted on 05/02/2007 9:20:11 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I do plan on being around more and helping to do whatever I can to keep Rudy from being our nominee.

Well, that makes you a Sith as well. I hereby crown you Darth Dog.

17,903 posted on 05/02/2007 9:20:49 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Thank you for your service to our country. Tet ‘68 must not have been any kind of picnic.


17,904 posted on 05/02/2007 9:23:12 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Chena; RobFromGa
We can agree on many virtually ALL of the objectives, and still disagree with the tactics.
17,905 posted on 05/02/2007 9:23:55 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dirtboy
I will take it....I always love a good nickname. Thanks!

Check out new tagline.....thanks!

17,906 posted on 05/02/2007 9:26:21 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Darth Dog)
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To: yellowdoghunter
>>>>>I do plan on being around more and helping to do whatever I can to keep Rudy from being our nominee.

That is good to hear! Its the same old battle, just like its always been around FR, its conservatism versus liberalism. Rooty has already begun splitting conservatives within the GOP. Gotta work hard at knocking Rudy off. After Jim`s spring cleaning getting the message out about Rooty should be somewhat easier, but there are still some serious RudyBoosters around and they're not about to shut up or go quietly into the night.

17,907 posted on 05/02/2007 9:27:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: DCPatriot

That version is especially accurate in this case. :)


17,908 posted on 05/02/2007 9:27:41 AM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Glad to see you around again, missed your posts.

It takes a lot to wade through this thread, but you will spot a lot of us throughout.

Life is good.

8mm


17,909 posted on 05/02/2007 9:28:23 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: don-o
Changing my tagline over here.

Clever, stirring the pot and carrying it thread to thread in one fell swoop. How convenient to have it all in one.

17,910 posted on 05/02/2007 9:28:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mom MD
>> Sorry, I missed the remark that preceded your comment.

No prollum, this thread is a LOT of reading. And besides, you didn't miss anything. Kids will be kids.

>> BTW, there were only a couple of real scientists in that crowd,

If they were real scientists, they wouldn't have to claim that their findings were scientific. Reproducible results do the speaking for them. It's non-science that is obliged to preach.

17,911 posted on 05/02/2007 9:31:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Delphinium

Excellent metaphor, Delphinium. I’m repeating it below so that I don’t have to remember who wrote it & go hunting for it if I ever want it.

I read a similar short story when I was a kid called “Owls in the Family”.

I read a book as a kid about a pet owl. The owl did all kinds of funny stuff, such as flying into the house carrying a freshly-killed skunk.

But one scene sticks in my head. The boy was out crow hunting with his dad. The crows were staying out of range, and then suddenly the owl hopped up onto a fence post next to them. The crows lost their minds and came after the owl time after time even though they were getting blown out of the sky.

Really good story and does remind me of how these attack EV.

What was the name of that story, I’d like to get it for my grandchildren.


17,912 posted on 05/02/2007 9:33:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: T'wit; Mom MD; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

I read one post that said a bunch of evos were leaving FR and the guy pointed out that very few people noticed because they spent so much time on those threads and nowhere else that they didn’t contribute much to the conservative cause.

Allow me to put in my standard plug for Alamo Girl and Betty Boop and their book on crevo stuff. These 2 ladies are amazing freepers.

http://www.freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1738139/posts

Announcing a New Book by Alamo-Girl and betty boop [Update at #329]


17,913 posted on 05/02/2007 9:39:58 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: dirtboy
>> You are now Darth T'wit.

Darth T'wit, Darth T'wit. What kind of a name is that? I am Darth Vader's ex-wife, Taxi. I hold the one key to destroying the Empire! I plot against the IRS.

17,914 posted on 05/02/2007 9:40:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Kevmo

Thank you so very much for your encouragements and for mentioning our book!


17,915 posted on 05/02/2007 9:42:14 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kevmo

That might have been it - “Owls in the Family”.


17,916 posted on 05/02/2007 9:43:02 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: T'wit

OK, OK, you can be Darth Yellowcab, then.


17,917 posted on 05/02/2007 9:43:46 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Kevmo

They didn’t contribute much to the conservative cause anyway. You could count on them generally taking the liberal view on almost any non-evo thread, with the clear exception of gun control. They tended to very much favor big government and especially its control of the school system .


17,918 posted on 05/02/2007 9:49:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dirtboy

Just doing my part to get this thread to 18,000.


17,919 posted on 05/02/2007 9:50:37 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Kevmo

Hooray for Alamo-Girl and Betty Boop! Hip, hip, hoorah! Hear, hear (that’s for all you folks who spell it “here”)! Strike up the band! 76 Trombones led the big parade.......


17,920 posted on 05/02/2007 9:52:45 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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