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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Interesting Times

Give it a rest, IT. The fact is, and God knows, I do pray for those who have made themselves my enemies.

As to your claims of “viciousness”?

I’ve had folks in your circle attack me personally here in ways that no one except Jim Robinson has ever had to put up with. Frankly, I think I’ve gone pretty easy on them.


11,081 posted on 04/26/2007 11:27:24 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: StarCMC

A+ for you! :-)


11,082 posted on 04/26/2007 11:27:43 AM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: Interesting Times

“Sprinkling your rants with sanctimonious phrases and the occasional Bible verse offers little camouflage when you’ve spent the past several days expressing vindictive delight at the misfortunes of others.”

His rants have been thrust upon those who ranted and then begged to be disparaged. Your barking up the wrong tree. Did you find the trolls who zapped themselves worthy of calling out?


11,083 posted on 04/26/2007 11:31:18 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I’ve gotten lost in the thread..do you have an update on “the list”?


11,084 posted on 04/26/2007 11:32:40 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Waiting impatiently for a conservative party to rise from the ashes of the wimpy republican party.)
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To: wagglebee

You have to realize that the evos travel in a pack and take turns getting involved in the threads, but make just one comment to tick them off, and they descend on you like sharks at a feeding frenzy. I’ve had it happen to me. They’re ALWAYS watching.

(To DC: Hi Y’all!)


11,085 posted on 04/26/2007 11:34:13 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dog Gone
We have eaten our own before, but this time we are losing some giants at FR that have been at our side for many years. That can only continue so long before there are no giants left.

I'm not worried about the "giants". On a forum like this, "giants" come and go. Personally, I think that if they're supporting a liberal like Rudy Giuliani, it's better that they go now. They may be "giants", but we can do without liberal "giants".
11,086 posted on 04/26/2007 11:35:13 AM PDT by Antoninus (I won't vote for a liberal, regardless of party....)
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To: metmom

That is why I rarely if ever get involved in any of the Crevo threads around here. If someone wants to come on this thread and try to stick up for someone else (banned or otherwise), I have no problem with it. But I find it insulting to be told that that isn’t the case when it so obviously is.


11,087 posted on 04/26/2007 11:39:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Antoninus

“They may be “giants”, but we can do without liberal “giants”.”

Sometimes profound thoughts are the simplest; and right out in front of you, easily missed. But this one didn’t escape you and you nailed it down the line and out of the park. Nice post.


11,088 posted on 04/26/2007 11:40:27 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Give it a rest, IT. The fact is, and God knows, I do pray for those who have made themselves my enemies.

Glad to hear it. I don't consider you an enemy, as it happens.

As to your claims of “viciousness”?

I calls 'em like I sees 'em. Go back and read a few of your own posts on this thread.

I’ve had folks in your circle attack me personally here in ways that no one except Jim Robinson has ever had to put up with. Frankly, I think I’ve gone pretty easy on them.

Very nice. That's worth five martyr points plus the bonus credit for kissing up to Jim. Two more points for patting yourself on the back for your imaginary self-restraint.

Nice chatting with you again. I'll be on my way now...

11,089 posted on 04/26/2007 11:41:03 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: wagglebee; T'wit
Gumlegs: The bolded section above is the error I wish to correct. I responded to T'wit's post entirely on my own. I was unprompted by anyone.

wagglebee: Your response is insulting to my intelligence at best.

I wouldn't have thought that possible.

This thread has been going all week, yet you didn't post on it until it had well over 10,000 posts. And your first post happens to be in defense of another Darwin Central member who was banned for his repeated harrassment of T'wit.

Is there some new rule about not posting to a thread of "well over 10,000 posts" unless you'd posted before? What's the magic cut-off number? In case anyone needs to know.

But, to give you the benefit of the doubt, why did you stumble onto this thread? And did you read through the 10,000+ other posts before you found the first one you wanted to respond to?

It's hard to miss.

I've been lurking for days. I didn't feel the need to respond until T'wit's post. Here's why: I thought the post was low, even by current standards. RadioAstronomer isn't here to defend himself anymore. In addition, not that you need to know this (or have any right to), when I lost my job in 2003, RA went out of his way to be encouraging, helpful, and extend the warm hand of friendship. He was a friend when I really needed one, and he is a friend today. If that offends you (singular or plural), you are deserving of the contempt any sentient being would feel. (Not that it's likely to impress anyone, but that sentence was in the conditional).

RadioAstronomer made a gesture towards me I will never forget. He is my friend.

Go ahead and sneer.

11,090 posted on 04/26/2007 11:41:20 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Interesting Times

Nice chatting with you, too.


11,091 posted on 04/26/2007 11:42:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: Interesting Times

Oh, I forgot.

/viciousness


11,092 posted on 04/26/2007 11:46:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: Interesting Times
Very nice. That's worth five martyr points plus the bonus credit for kissing up to Jim. Two more points for patting yourself on the back for your imaginary self-restraint.

You might want to close your viciousness tag on that one, too.

11,093 posted on 04/26/2007 11:47:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: EternalVigilance
That wasn't viciousness; that was sardonic wit.

It's a somewhat subtle distinction, and unfortunately I haven't time at the moment to explain in more detail.

11,094 posted on 04/26/2007 11:50:46 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Gumlegs
From your profile:

“There was a time when I proudly told people I was a FReeper and invited like-minded individuals to this site.

That time is now past.”

Well isnt that special. You evolved above us, we are not worthy to have you here.

11,095 posted on 04/26/2007 11:50:48 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: secret garden

:-) LOL!!!


11,096 posted on 04/26/2007 11:51:59 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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To: Gumlegs; T'wit
I didn't feel the need to respond until T'wit's post. Here's why: I thought the post was low, even by current standards. RadioAstronomer isn't here to defend himself anymore.

Then, I retract my previous assertion that you did this at RA's behest. Obviously, you feel some animosity toward T'wit for his role in having RA banned (plus his recent suspension); if you had just said that in the first place, I never would have made my initial post to you.

11,097 posted on 04/26/2007 11:54:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Interesting Times

Enjoy the day.


11,098 posted on 04/26/2007 11:55:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: greyfoxx39
calcowgirl is now running the list.

See here for the last update.

11,099 posted on 04/26/2007 12:01:12 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Warning. If your tagline is funny... I may steal it.)
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