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Scientists Bid To Take Neanderthal DNA Sample
Scotsman ^ | 10-1-2006 | Kark Mansfield

Posted on 10/01/2006 11:00:57 AM PDT by blam

Scientists bid to take Neanderthal DNA sample

KARL MANSFIELD

SCIENTISTS are attempting to extract DNA for the first time from the fossilised bones thought to be of a Neanderthal man who roamed Britain 35,000 years ago.

Experts plan to use a tooth from an upper jaw to establish whether the closest relative of modern humans lived on the British Isles later than it was once thought.

The fragment of an upper jaw, which was found in 1926 at Kent's Cavern in Devon, was originally thought to be human, but experts now think it could date back even further.

Chris Stringer, research leader in Human Origins at the Natural History Museum in London, said it was a critical test that could have historic results. The only late Neanderthal fossils on the British Isles were found on the Channel Islands around 1910.

However, Stringer said the teeth discovered at the site date back to a time when the island was joined to France around 50,000 years ago.

The director of the Ancient Human Occupation of Britain (AHOB) project said: "Neanderthal DNA is very distinct and would show up clearly in tests. It is a critical test as this could be the first late Neanderthal fossil on mainline Britain.

"But it is also historic if there is modern human DNA as this would prove they were here earlier than previously thought.

"Neanderthals are so close to us in time, living 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, and a closely related species. We have lots of Neanderthal tools but no fossils. The team is excited about the tests, but we need a bit of luck as the DNA may not have survived."

The roots, crown, size and shape of the tooth, which is thought to date back 35,000 years, would also be studied.

Torquay Museum in Devon, which looks after the piece of jaw bone, has agreed in principle to the DNA and carbon dating tests, Stringer said.

The group, which found evidence which dated the arrival of primitive ancestors in Britain to 700,000 years ago, 200,000 years earlier than previous findings, includes archaeologists, paleontologists and geologists from the Natural History Museum, the British Museum, Royal Holloway, University of London, and the University of Durham.

AHOB was set up in 2001 and funded for five years with £1.2m from the Leverhulme Trust which provides grants for education and research.

The second phase of research, which is called AHOB2 and runs until 2010, starts today after the Leverhulme Trust provided a £999,000 grant.

The next phase will include comparative studies in continental Europe.

The new project will also test the theory that there were no humans in Britain between 180,000 and 60,000 years ago due to the creation of the English Channel, making access to Britain more difficult.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 10/01/2006 11:01:01 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
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Neanderthal Yields Nuclear DNA

2 posted on 10/01/2006 11:02:46 AM PDT by blam
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3 posted on 10/01/2006 11:03:40 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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4 posted on 10/01/2006 11:04:05 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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yours?


5 posted on 10/01/2006 11:06:46 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: blam
Computer sampled Neanderthal DNA and using new high imaging software it came up with the following pictoral representation of the Neanderthal:


"Ug"

6 posted on 10/01/2006 11:07:20 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: blam

PCR technology might make alot of things possible.

As if my neighbors weren't hairy enough already.
Now I have to look forward to them leaving those mastodon bones in the front yard...


7 posted on 10/01/2006 11:09:56 AM PDT by djf (Its time for all patriotic Americans to get a new pet --- a pet PIG!!)
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did my protruding brow and
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8 posted on 10/01/2006 11:11:31 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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9 posted on 10/01/2006 11:12:41 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: leda

Nah, it was our kids. Ryan is still mad at me for telling he is not human. ;)


10 posted on 10/01/2006 11:14:05 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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11 posted on 10/01/2006 11:17:07 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: blam
Scientists Bid To Take Neanderthal DNA Sample

I'll send one in for ten bucks and postage.

12 posted on 10/01/2006 11:23:38 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: blam
Neanderthal Yields Nuclear DNA

But...but...aren't they concerned about RADIATION? (DU mode)

13 posted on 10/01/2006 11:25:10 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: martin_fierro

That commercial cracks me up. I love the look the Neanderthal gives him at the end.


14 posted on 10/01/2006 11:29:35 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: djf

Now I have to look forward to them leaving those mastodon bones in the front yard...

Look on the brite side, that's better than having to look forward to what the mastodon's leave behind in the front yard ;O)

15 posted on 10/01/2006 11:32:27 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: blam
Neanderthal DNA has been sequenced and proves that Neanderthal is not related to any creatures on earth.
16 posted on 10/01/2006 12:16:31 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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Neanderthal Yields Nuclear DNA.

I hope the Iranians don't find any Neanderthal fossils, or the carefully-crafted UN strategy to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons may be down the drain...

17 posted on 10/01/2006 1:11:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Nonsense.


18 posted on 10/02/2006 8:34:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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LOL, absolute nonsense.


19 posted on 10/02/2006 9:37:11 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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20 posted on 10/03/2006 7:46:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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