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Oldest noodles unearthed in China
BBC News ^ | 9/12/05 | BBC News

Posted on 10/12/2005 1:36:46 PM PDT by bigmac0707

Oldest noodles unearthed in China

Late Neolithic noodles: They may settle the origin debate

The 50cm-long, yellow strands were found in a pot that had probably been buried during a catastrophic flood.

Radiocarbon dating of the material taken from the Lajia archaeological site on the Yellow River indicates the food was about 4,000 years old.

Scientists tell the journal Nature that the noodles were made using grains from millet grass - unlike modern noodles, which are made with wheat flour.

The discovery goes a long way to settling the old argument over who first created the string-like food.

Professor Houyuan Lu said: "Prior to the discovery of noodles at Lajia, the earliest written record of noodles is traced to a book written during the East Han Dynasty sometime between AD 25 and 220, although it remained a subject of debate whether the Chinese, the Italians, or the Arabs invented it first.

"Our discovery indicates that noodles were first produced in China," the researcher from the Institute of Geology and Geophysics, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing, explained to BBC News.

The professor's team tells Nature that the ancient settlement at Lajia was hit by a sudden catastrophe.

Among the remains are skeletons thrown into various abnormal postures, suggesting the inhabitants may have been trying to flee the disaster that was enveloping them.

"Based on the geological and archaeological evidence, there was a catastrophic earthquake and immediately following the quake, the site was subject to flooding by the river," explained co-author Professor Kam-biu Liu, from Louisiana State University, US.

"Lajia is a very interesting site; in a way, it is the Pompeii of China."

It was in amongst the human wreckage that scientists found an upturned earthenware bowl filled with brownish-yellow, fine clay.

When they lifted the inverted container, the noodles were found sitting proud on the cone of sediment left behind.

"It was this unique combination of factors that created a vacuum or empty space between the top of the sediment cone and the bottom of this bowl that allowed the noodles to be preserved," Professor Kam-biu Liu said.

The noodles resemble the La-Mian noodle, the team says; a traditional Chinese noodle that is made by repeatedly pulling and stretching the dough by hand.

To identify the plants from which the noodles were made, the team looked at the shape and patterning of starch grains and so-called seed-husk phytoliths in the bowl.

These were compared with modern crops. The analysis pointed to the use of foxtail millet (Setaria italica) and broomcorn millet (Panicum miliaceum)

"Our data demonstrate that noodles were probably initially made from species of domesticated grasses native to China. This is in sharp contrast to modern Chinese noodles or Italian pasta which are mostly made of wheat today," Professor Houyuan Lu said.


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; archaeology; broomcornmillet; c14; china; dietandcuisine; foxtailmillet; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; huntergatherers; lajia; noodles; panicummiliaceum; pompeii; radiocarbondating; science; setariaitalica; yellowriver
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To: razoroccam

Much as modern Chinese noodles look.


21 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:43 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Riley

I'll give you that.


22 posted on 10/12/2005 1:48:08 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Top Ramen, anyone?


23 posted on 10/12/2005 1:48:10 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Riley
'Top Ramen' joke in 5...4...3...2...

Hey, in college I was so broke I used to eat "Medium Ramen."

24 posted on 10/12/2005 1:48:10 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: dead

>>>I had a friend in college who, when stoned, would sprinkle the uncooked ramen noodle block with the dry seasoning mix, then place it between two slices of white bread and eat it.>>>

I have never been stoned enough to do that!


25 posted on 10/12/2005 1:49:26 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: bigmac0707
For all you parents with todlers out there and hope it sticks in your head:

Noodle.
Use your noodle.
Noodle.
Do the Noodle Dance.

26 posted on 10/12/2005 1:51:27 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping....ancient noodles from China.


27 posted on 10/12/2005 1:52:30 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: bigmac0707


...the 50cm-long, yellow strands were found in a pot that had probably been buried during a catastrophic flood.

Strangely, five boxes of Shurefine Mac & Cheese, an empty twelve pack of Red White & Blue and three Totino's Pizzas were also found at the site.


28 posted on 10/12/2005 1:52:41 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: rogue yam

Got to admit- I never tried eating the raw Ramen block. It'd be like eating a seasoned furnace air filter.



I'm intrigued.


29 posted on 10/12/2005 1:53:39 PM PDT by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: Vintage1
"Hey, that looks like what i was served last night in my favorite Chinese restaurant!"


Actually at first glance they looked to me like ebola germs under the microscope.

Then I got to thinking just what IS going to be forever preserved in the mud of New Orleans to amaze Freepers thousands of years from now?
30 posted on 10/12/2005 1:57:22 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: bigmac0707

Burp to the top.


31 posted on 10/12/2005 1:58:50 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: dead

UNCOOKED?

Should not eat that raw, man


32 posted on 10/12/2005 2:02:15 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Ever wonder about the origin of the word vermicelli?
33 posted on 10/12/2005 2:03:13 PM PDT by fzx12345 (This space is unintentionally left blank.)
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To: dead

What did he do after that, drink a gallon of water and sleep upright?


34 posted on 10/12/2005 2:07:53 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: bigmac0707

Found, by any chance, in one of those little take-out boxes?


35 posted on 10/12/2005 2:08:33 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: steveo

Thanks a lot smart@ss, now that will echo around in my head all night...


36 posted on 10/12/2005 2:29:04 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Don't even get me started on Barbara Manatee. LOL...


37 posted on 10/12/2005 2:50:16 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: bigmac0707

What al ordest nuders?


38 posted on 10/12/2005 2:52:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: dead

We did the same without the bread. We were just binge drinkers though, left the wacky tabacy to the dudes down the hall.

Goes down pretty easy with a can of Natural Light or da Beast. Makes the beer taste better too.


39 posted on 10/12/2005 2:57:41 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: sandbar

The stuff a guy will eat when stoned. "Memories ... light the corner of my mine ... misty water-colored memmmmmories ... "


40 posted on 10/12/2005 2:58:29 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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