Posted on 03/21/2024 3:47:09 PM PDT by DoodleBob
I don't think it does. Most translations indicate Judas regretted what he did. He was remorseful and sorry.
But II Corinthians 7:10 indicates there there are two kinds of sorrow...
Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
The worldly sorrow of Judas brought him a physical death. Perhaps eternal death as well.
Judas saw the miracles and heard Jesus preach. He had NO doubt Jesus was the Messiah. Like the rest of the Jewish nation, he wanted the yoke of Rome off of their necks and saw Jesus as the avenue for that. Jesus seemed to not want to use his extraordinary powers to achieve that but had a different kingdom in mind. He thought Jesus to meek to seek His glory but Judas could give Him a little nudge and be a hero (the money was an incentive also). Judas knew there was no way they’d harm/kill the Messiah. Judas was wrong. He suffered terrible grief. The best friend he ever had in the world and he helped condemn Him to a horrible death. He couldn’t live with himself for that. Whether he repented, we’ll never know in this lifetime.
Only God knows. But we do know that some, if not many, souls are in Hell.
Jesus Christ has told us that many times in scripture, despite what Jorge Bergoglio and Robert Barron profess.
My opinion, for what that is worth, is probably not.
Judas was a "by myself" sort of person. That is ok, to a point, but they become incapable of asking for help.
Judas tried to fix things so Jesus would be forced to use His power. When that did not work Judas probably lost his belief that Jesus was the Christ but he did realize that he had sold out an innocent.
So once again, he tried to fix it by going to the High Priests. And they basically told him, tough luck boy-o.
So he went and hung himself. Trying, still trying, to fix things with his own blood.
This is something that people still have a tough time with. Asking forgiveness and letting God fix it because you can not.
Dante put Judas there in his Inferno. Doesn't that settle the issue?
This is all speculation on our part. The one thing that we do know is that Judas' eternal destiny was determined by a just and merciful judge.
C.S. Lewis discusses this (in "Mere Christianity" I think).
Basically he says that Jesus (and God) can see into the future, since they are "outside of time."
If that's true, then no paradox - as you said, you have free will AND Jesus/God know how you are going to choose.
The answer to the question is….nobody knows.
There is a LOT of undeniable truth in that discussion of Scripture. We are all fallen short but there is always a chance for repentance; you just have to mean it.
you win the thread
we do not know because it is far above our pay grade
Judas was repentant and so devastated that he could no longer live with himself
I recall one of the Biblical movies. Was interesting Judas asks Jesus, “Surely you’re in need of someone like me.”
No, he became Trump’s Vice President.
Well said thank you
But He did create the Universe and so He had something to do with how we ended up. If the Calvinists are right, then He decided ahead of time who would end up in Heaven regardless of their free will. But I've noticed that people tend to be in one of two camps: they have more universalist beliefs and think that most people are going to eventually end up in Heaven which seems too merciful, or people tend to believe that their particular set of beliefs is imperative for salvation and so very few end up in Heaven which seems too unjust.
The general response is to state that God's knowledge/mercy/justice is so far above our understanding that we shouldn't try to explain it. We should just hope and pray that God will give us the grace to be saved. That seems a bit too antinomian to me.
Jesus said Judas was lost, so I’m guessing yes.
Jesus calls Judas a devil! John 6:70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.”
He also called Peter, Satan, so...
This is one of the answers to the Problem of Evil, i.e. that no matter what horrendous and seemingly unmerciful and unjust atrocity is visited upon a person there is a good reason that God allowed that to happen.
Not entirely true. They can be until they are freed by Christ. The Lord delivered many from demons. Were they not true Christians afterwards?
“But we leave Judas’ eternal destination in God’s hands, not man’s speculation.”
You are probably the only guy to “Get it”,
Besides me of course, but I try to not post a lot on controversial things. You stated it perfectly.
I believe he is damned as the Lord said it would better he (Judas) were not born and he despaired, a sin against the Holy Spirit. Just my opinion.
Ping from earlier today.
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