Posted on 03/21/2024 3:47:09 PM PDT by DoodleBob
One of the most common questions in Christianity is, did Judas go to Heaven or Hell? There are clear indications from Scripture that Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus is burning in Hell right now. He was never saved and even though he was remorseful before he committed suicide he never repented.
God didn’t make Judas Iscariot betray Jesus, but he knew he was going to do it. Remember there are some Christians who aren’t really Christians and there are pastors who just use God’s name for money and I believe Judas used God’s name for money. Once you become a true Christian you can’t be demon possessed and you will always be a Christian. John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Quotes about Judas Iscariot “Judas Iscariot was not a greatly wicked person, just a common money-lover, and like most money-lovers, he did not understand Christ.” Aiden Wilson Tozer
“Surely in Judas’ betrayal it will be no more right, because God both willed that his Son be delivered up, and delivered him up to death, to ascribe the guilt of the crime to God than to transfer the credit for redemption to Judas.” John Calvin
“Judas heard all Christ’s sermons.” Thomas Goodwin
Judas greedy thief who betrayed Jesus for money! John 12:4-7 But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, “Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages. ” He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it. “Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Matthew 26:14-16 Then one of the twelve, whose name was Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests and said, “What will you give me if I deliver him over to you?” And they paid him thirty pieces of silver. And from that moment he sought an opportunity to betray him.
Luke 16:13 “A servant cannot serve two masters. He will hate the first master and love the second, or he will be devoted to the first and despise the second. You cannot serve God and wealth.“
Was Judas saved? No, Satan entered him. True Christians can never be demon possessed!
John 13:27-30 As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.” But no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the festival, or to give something to the poor. As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.
1 John 5:18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them.
1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.
Jesus calls Judas a devil! John 6:70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.”
Better had Judas not been born It would have been better if he was never born!
Matthew 26:20-24 When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the Twelve. And while they were eating, he said, “Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me.” They were very sad and began to say to him one after the other, “Surely you don’t mean me, Lord?” Jesus replied, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
The son of perdition – Judas doomed to destruction John 17:11-12 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
Is Judas in hell? Judas was the only unclean disciple. According to John 13, Judas was not clean. How can Judas be in heaven if he was unclean? This verse tells me that Judas was not saved and his sins were not forgiven.
John 13:8-11 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all. For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.
Why did Judas go to hell? Judas went to hell because he failed to repent and put his trust in Christ alone for salvation. Judas was unregenerate. He was a man that looked the part but he was not truly converted by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Did Judas go to hell for betraying Jesus? The short is answer is no. This is a works-based question. Some people say, Judas sinned by betraying Jesus, therefore he went to hell. This is not the case. Peter betrayed Jesus as well. However, we noticed that he was burdened and grieved over his sin. He repented over his and he was forgiven. Why did Peter repent? Peter repented because he was truly converted of the Lord. He was saved. In Peter, we see evidence of a man who failed but looked to Jesus. We don’t see repentance in Judas. The mark of Christian is not someone who will never sin. We are saved by Christ alone. Jesus lived the life that we couldn’t live. However, a Christian should bear good fruit and they should be growing in repentance. As stated above, Judas went to hell because he did not trust in Christ for salvation.
I don't think it does. Most translations indicate Judas regretted what he did. He was remorseful and sorry.
But II Corinthians 7:10 indicates there there are two kinds of sorrow...
Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
The worldly sorrow of Judas brought him a physical death. Perhaps eternal death as well.
Judas saw the miracles and heard Jesus preach. He had NO doubt Jesus was the Messiah. Like the rest of the Jewish nation, he wanted the yoke of Rome off of their necks and saw Jesus as the avenue for that. Jesus seemed to not want to use his extraordinary powers to achieve that but had a different kingdom in mind. He thought Jesus to meek to seek His glory but Judas could give Him a little nudge and be a hero (the money was an incentive also). Judas knew there was no way they’d harm/kill the Messiah. Judas was wrong. He suffered terrible grief. The best friend he ever had in the world and he helped condemn Him to a horrible death. He couldn’t live with himself for that. Whether he repented, we’ll never know in this lifetime.
Only God knows. But we do know that some, if not many, souls are in Hell.
Jesus Christ has told us that many times in scripture, despite what Jorge Bergoglio and Robert Barron profess.
My opinion, for what that is worth, is probably not.
Judas was a "by myself" sort of person. That is ok, to a point, but they become incapable of asking for help.
Judas tried to fix things so Jesus would be forced to use His power. When that did not work Judas probably lost his belief that Jesus was the Christ but he did realize that he had sold out an innocent.
So once again, he tried to fix it by going to the High Priests. And they basically told him, tough luck boy-o.
So he went and hung himself. Trying, still trying, to fix things with his own blood.
This is something that people still have a tough time with. Asking forgiveness and letting God fix it because you can not.
Dante put Judas there in his Inferno. Doesn't that settle the issue?
This is all speculation on our part. The one thing that we do know is that Judas' eternal destiny was determined by a just and merciful judge.
C.S. Lewis discusses this (in "Mere Christianity" I think).
Basically he says that Jesus (and God) can see into the future, since they are "outside of time."
If that's true, then no paradox - as you said, you have free will AND Jesus/God know how you are going to choose.
The answer to the question is….nobody knows.
There is a LOT of undeniable truth in that discussion of Scripture. We are all fallen short but there is always a chance for repentance; you just have to mean it.
you win the thread
we do not know because it is far above our pay grade
Judas was repentant and so devastated that he could no longer live with himself
I recall one of the Biblical movies. Was interesting Judas asks Jesus, “Surely you’re in need of someone like me.”
No, he became Trump’s Vice President.
Well said thank you
But He did create the Universe and so He had something to do with how we ended up. If the Calvinists are right, then He decided ahead of time who would end up in Heaven regardless of their free will. But I've noticed that people tend to be in one of two camps: they have more universalist beliefs and think that most people are going to eventually end up in Heaven which seems too merciful, or people tend to believe that their particular set of beliefs is imperative for salvation and so very few end up in Heaven which seems too unjust.
The general response is to state that God's knowledge/mercy/justice is so far above our understanding that we shouldn't try to explain it. We should just hope and pray that God will give us the grace to be saved. That seems a bit too antinomian to me.
Jesus said Judas was lost, so I’m guessing yes.
Jesus calls Judas a devil! John 6:70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.”
He also called Peter, Satan, so...
This is one of the answers to the Problem of Evil, i.e. that no matter what horrendous and seemingly unmerciful and unjust atrocity is visited upon a person there is a good reason that God allowed that to happen.
Not entirely true. They can be until they are freed by Christ. The Lord delivered many from demons. Were they not true Christians afterwards?
“But we leave Judas’ eternal destination in God’s hands, not man’s speculation.”
You are probably the only guy to “Get it”,
Besides me of course, but I try to not post a lot on controversial things. You stated it perfectly.
I believe he is damned as the Lord said it would better he (Judas) were not born and he despaired, a sin against the Holy Spirit. Just my opinion.
Ping from earlier today.
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