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Was "the plan" to expel God from the Garden of Eden (Bible Thumper caucus)
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Posted on 06/16/2021 4:47:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

After all, Satan's bait was that Adam and Eve would become as gods. And together with Satan, that would seem to them to be at least two or possibly three gods (if Satan was believed to be a god as well) against one.


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1 posted on 06/16/2021 4:47:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On
God is everywhere. He was not expelled. Satan has no power over God

Your proposition is ridiculous.

2 posted on 06/16/2021 4:51:04 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: Faith Presses On

Satan is a created being and does not possess the attributes of God.


3 posted on 06/16/2021 4:52:11 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Faith Presses On

There is only one God. It’s kind of fundamental.


4 posted on 06/16/2021 4:53:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Faith Presses On

I think the plan was to expand the Garden of Eden, as Adam’s and Eve’s brood expanded, until the earth was covered.


5 posted on 06/16/2021 4:55:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Faith Presses On

Fundamentally it resulted in a breakdown in the relationship between God and Humanity, between creator and created. That was likely the target, if not the only one.


6 posted on 06/16/2021 4:56:41 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Faith Presses On

Dr. Michael Heiser states in his book “Unseen Realm” that Satan, did not want humanity to be a part of the Heavenly Family for some reason.

Was it because we had bodies created in the image of God, thus producing massive angelic jealousy?
Was it because of how we were made “dirt” making us mud people?
Was it because his role and that of the angelic hierarchy were to be “less” than us and serve us?

Did the creation of humanity spurn Satan’s rebellion?
Or did this happen before?

This is a very interesting topic.


7 posted on 06/16/2021 5:00:30 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Mark17

Ping for your interest


8 posted on 06/16/2021 5:01:47 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Faith Presses On
No. That was not the plan. I'm not sure how much planning was involved. Satan rebelled against God. He thought His Commandments were unreasonable and constraining. Satan fought the Law and the Law won. After being expelled he sought to tempt Adam or Eve to join in the fight by duplicity. he was successful through Eve. So now, Satan had an ah-ha moment. See! Even mankind rebels against you because nobody can follow your rigid Laws.
It took a couple of millennium but a Redeemer arrived at the scene to show the world what God was like and what was expected in return. Gods Laws are guided by love. The life of Jesus was guided by love. To follow the Law this love must be instilled in your hearts.
9 posted on 06/16/2021 5:02:36 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Who is John Galt and is he vaccinated?)
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To: Faith Presses On

Free Republic is primarily a place to discuss news, articles, and editorials. Vanity posts, creations of the poster him or herself, should meet a high standard of quality before one is even considered worthy of posting. Often a relevant current thread or general announcement, catch-all thread is a much better choice for a brief question or comment.


10 posted on 06/16/2021 5:04:04 PM PDT by deks
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This is a very interesting topic.

Angels are fascinating.

11 posted on 06/16/2021 5:04:13 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Reconcile that with this verse:
“Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!” I Cor. 6:3.
Think again.


12 posted on 06/16/2021 5:04:17 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

My theory is that it was socialism that did him in.

If you look at the differences between socialism and Christianity, they both have the same aim of “goodness” but Christianity achieves goodness through goodwill between men but still allowing people to live their lives, but socialism mandates it’s gooness with oppression and the gun and the expectation is subjugation to the goodness as a way of life.

It would not surprise me if it turned out that he, who wants to be like the Most High, was trying to out goodness God through mandated goodness.


13 posted on 06/16/2021 5:05:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

My theory is that it was socialism that did him in.

If you look at the differences between socialism and Christianity, they both have the same aim of “goodness” but Christianity achieves goodness through goodwill between men but still allowing people to live their lives, but socialism mandates it’s goodness with oppression and the gun and the expectation is subjugation to the goodness as a way of life.

It would not surprise me if it turned out that he, who wants to be like the Most High, was trying to out goodness God through mandated goodness.


14 posted on 06/16/2021 5:06:56 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Fungi

What’s your point?


15 posted on 06/16/2021 5:07:10 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: deks
Free Republic is primarily a place to discuss news, articles, and editorials.

We do have a religion forum. This seems entirely appropriate

16 posted on 06/16/2021 5:07:33 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: deks

So you don’t like this vanity?
Fine - go to another thread.
Or better yet - start your own “I hate Vanity Threads Thread”.


17 posted on 06/16/2021 5:10:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Faith Presses On
What kind of car did God drive?

God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in a Fury.


18 posted on 06/16/2021 5:10:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: FatherofFive

They’re all male too


19 posted on 06/16/2021 5:13:51 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: deks; Faith Presses On
Free Republic is primarily a place to discuss news, articles, and editorials.

My beeber says otherwise, Free Republic is what Freepers make it within the broad, rather loose boundaries set by JR. We have/had canteen song threads, posts of personal music compositions, what kind of pizza are you threads, IT questions, prayer threads , car debate threads and various non-newsy religion threads.

It is what makes Free Republic a community and not another dry news site.

Personally, I just don’t read articles that don’t interest me, just as I changed the station when Rush started talking golf.
20 posted on 06/16/2021 5:17:21 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“At first you go bankrupt slowly, then all at once.” -- Hemingway)
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