Posted on 07/04/2011 10:00:42 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
The debate among evangelical Christians over Darwin's theory of evolution has returned to front stage this summer with the publication of two separate cover stories on the issue by leading Christian magazines.
In its June cover story, Christianity Today reported on how Christian proponents of Darwin are challenging historic beliefs about Adam and Eve.
Now Christian news magazine World has announced that it will name two books critiquing "theistic evolution" as its "Books of the Year" in its upcoming July 2 issue. World called the evolution debate in churches and religious colleges "the biggest current battle both among Christians and between Christian and anti-Christian thought."
One of the two books honored by World is God and Evolution: Protestants, Catholics, and Jews Explore Darwin's Challenge to Faith (Discovery Institute Press, 2010).
The book's editor, Dr. Jay Richards, commented, "We wanted to clear away the fog and fuzzy-thinking on this issue. Our book makes clear that to the degree theistic evolution is theistic, it will not be fully Darwinian. And to the degree that it is Darwinian, it will fail fully to preserve traditional theism."
God and Evolution features essays by Protestant, Catholic and Jewish scholars critical of the growing effort by advocates of theistic evolution such as Francis Collins to persuade leaders of the faith community to change their theology without hearing from scientists who are skeptical of the claims of unguided Darwinian evolution.
"Over the past couple of years, Collins has convened large closed-door meetings of evangelical Christian leaders to convince them to embrace theistic evolution," said Dr. John West, who wrote the first two chapters of God and Evolution.
"These gatherings intentionally excluded any scientists who were critical of Darwin's theory of unguided evolution. Collins has said that he wants to foster dialogue on this issue, but excluding scholars who dissent from Darwin from the conversation is a recipe for monologue, not dialogue."
For more information visit www.faithandevolution.org
SOURCE Discovery Institute
1. Adam's fall brings death into the world
2. Gap creationism says that there was a world and beings BEFORE Adam was created
Ergo -- did those beings die? If yes, then how? Death entered the world with Adam's sin, right?
Where do you read "new heavens"? Stop adding to the Word
Wow, this just gets better and better.
These are not "new" -- no where is the word "new", rather it is that the heavens were OF OLD....
And don't forget that after God created, He said that His Creation was "very good". If death is an enemy that Christ came to defeat, then how is death part of what is "very good"?
Also, consider Exodus 20:11
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Putting a "gap" between the first and second day is extra-biblical. It is an assumption made without support of the text.
Also, consider Exodus 20:11Exactly.For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Putting a "gap" between the first and second day is extra-biblical. It is an assumption made without support of the text.
Iscool -- on what basis do you make this? it's like your post above adding the word "new" to earth and heavens -- does your group think that God recreated heaven many times?
Where do you read "new heavens"? Stop adding to the Word
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
These people obviously are familiar with the teaching of the Old Testament, including Noah's Flood...
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
This is covered in Gen. 1:2...
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
The heavens which are now, as opposed to the heavens which were of old...
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Apparently you guys ARE ignorant of 'THIS ONE THING'...This tells us that the creation in Genesis 1:2 took place a little over 6000 years ago...
Doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not...But it certainly solves the riddle of billions of years of Earth's history and evolution...
Do you actually read the words of scripture, or do you just browse the outline your religion puts out???
By doing so, your cult deny's the efficacy of Christ's sacrifice by denying that Adam's sin brought death into the world
We already know that your sect denies Christ is God
It is based on scripture...God tells us much of creation was made after its kind...Birds made after Gen. 1:2 were made like the birds before Gen. 1:2...The only thing that was made differently was man...For the first time, God created a being in His image, man...
God tells Adam to 'replenish' the earth...That means to fill again...
There's plenty of scripture to support this idea...
it's like your post above adding the word "new" to earth and heavens -- does your group think that God recreated heaven many times?
May have created and recreated hundreds of times, or just once...He didn't tell us...
And we know your cult worships a Pagan Goddess that you call the Queen of Heaven...
So your entire argument falls flat
Just like your cult's argument that Jesus Christ is just a creature created by God
ha ha -- wow, so your cult got gnostic knowledge about this?
> Birds made after Gen. 1:2 were made like the birds before Gen. 1:2...
Where did you get your Bible?
I can’t find anything like that in mine.
All too often scientific data and the Bible are mis-interpreted. The links below are intended to show that we do have both supporting evidence and the hydroplate theory that completely defend the Biblical position of 6-10 thousand years of earthly existence and an explanation for the fossil record laid down by the Flood of Noah.
101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html
Thanks Brandt for the proof of a 6000 years of earthly existence. Iscool’s theories are unfounded and from a Christian point of view deny the very reason for Christ’s sacrifice
Until people begin to understand the time span between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 they will keep spitting in the wind. Once a person understands that there is no disparity between the Bible and Science.
Lets look at what you say is Gods first act what scripture says it looked like.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Are you trying to tell us that the first thing God did was create a world that was a total mess?
Great resources...Thanks...
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