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Italy's favourite saint was a fraud believed former pope
TimesOnine ^
| October 25, 2007
| Richard Owen
Posted on 07/02/2008 3:28:00 AM PDT by Gamecock
Pope John XXIII believed Padre Pio, the hugely popular Capuchin monk who was canonised in 2002, was a fraud who had "incorrect" relations with women and whose soul was in danger....
Sergio Luzzatto...has also found documents in the Vatican archives suggesting that Padre Pio may have faked his stigmata, the marks of the wounds of Christ, with acid. Vatican officials say both allegations are already well known....
Followers of Padre Pio believe he exuded "the odour of sanctity", had the gift of bilocation (being in two places at once), healed the sick and could prophesy the future.
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: agendadrivenfreeper; atheism; atheistagitprop; pio
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To: philly-d-kidder
I wouldn't really classify St Pio as an incorruptible. His body was injected with formalin after death, and even then there was a little decay. They made a silicone mask for the display. Now
this is incorruptibility:
Not that lack of incoruptibility denies sainthood, of course. The real thing is just really neat :)
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:05:16 AM PDT
by
Eepsy
(12-30-2008 +1)
To: netmilsmom
Not suprising, last year that was a big deal made over a book that came out about Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta and very dark nights of the soul. From what I have heard, before she died, she directed that here papers be burned. But it never happened and that book resulted.
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:17:41 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
To: Eepsy
Look at St John newmann in Philly... The Pine Box he was Buried was dust they did an autopsy on him in 1990’s and Changed his vestments this past January!He has a Mask because the Brass Cross from the Cofin landed on his Face for almost a Century
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:19:48 AM PDT
by
philly-d-kidder
(Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!! It's the sand we are afraid off!)
To: Gamecock
Just out of curiousity, why would Protestants care whether a man they believe is a fraud (that would include ALL popes) thinks someone else might be a fraud?
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:21:59 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
It might even rival the bilge-filled screeds you’ve been posting lately that are so vile they don’t just get locked by the RM, they get vaporized from the site altogether.
To: wagglebee
Because when there’s a dead horse around, any stick will do....
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:26:46 AM PDT
by
Eepsy
(12-30-2008 +1)
To: Gamecock
Jesus Himself was considered a fraud by many, as well. Does this fact affect your allegiance to Him? Character assassination by innuendo is a pretty low form of attack against anything, especially when the sources used are themselves generally hostile to the one using them. Or do you think the Times is particularly favorable to Christianity? If not, you and they, for the moment here, are the ultimate allies of convenience.
To: Eepsy
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:31:20 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: ClearCase_guy; markomalley; netmilsmom
There are people out there with a terrible hatred of Padre Pio. Why is this? He was persecuted in life and now in death. Satan feared him while alive and physically attacked Padre Pio in his cell. That alone should be an indication this great saint's holiness.
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:32:57 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: Gamecock; netmilsmom
Why are you posting a 'news' article from 2007?
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:34:10 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: magisterium; Manfred the Wonder Dawg
It might even rival the bilge-filled screeds youve been posting lately that are so vile they dont just get locked by the RM, they get vaporized from the site altogether. No, that would require finding an obscure sermon from the first half of the 20th Century where some insignificant charlatan denounces Padre Pio.
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:34:43 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: NYer
Why are you posting a 'news' article from 2007? You're kidding right? If they could find a critical article from 1930 they would post that as news.
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:35:56 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Gamecock
This article is from October 2007. Why post old “News”?
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:40:18 AM PDT
by
Radl
To: magisterium
Sorry your fragile world view is so easily shaken. Trust in Rome if ye wish, it will burn when the Lord’s judgment comes on the Earth.
To: ClearCase_guy
There are people out there with a terrible hatred of Padre Pio. Satan hates all the best people.
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:43:44 AM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Now get out there and spread some liberty.)
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Do you normally speak as if you’re reading the KJV?
To: Gamecock
Read the book “Padre Pio: The True Story” by C. Bernard Ruffin, who is an American Protestant minister who investigated Padre Pio in the 1980s and interviewed many people who knew him. He concluded that Padre Pio was the real deal
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:49:19 AM PDT
by
ChurtleDawg
(voting only encourages them)
To: Carpe Cerevisi
Just when he wants to compel other Christians into belief by fear...
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:50:12 AM PDT
by
DaveMSmith
(If you know these things, you are blessed if you act upon them. John 13:17)
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
>>Trust in Rome if ye wish, it will burn when the Lords judgment comes on the Earth.<<
Hey take a look!
Another “I know the mind of God” poster is on this thread!
Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!
It’s okay, I’d rather go to Catholic Heaven anyway!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=266_1193536860
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:51:45 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: Carpe Cerevisi
>>Do you normally speak as if youre reading the KJV?<<
I know “Talk Like a Pirate Day” is in September.
Did I miss this?
Is it “Talk like a Protestant Day”?
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posted on
07/02/2008 6:53:25 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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