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Italy's favourite saint was a fraud believed former pope
TimesOnine ^ | October 25, 2007 | Richard Owen

Posted on 07/02/2008 3:28:00 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: netmilsmom

***And why is an article from 2007, news today?***

This wasn’t posted under breaking news, now was it?

I wonder why you are trying to discredit the post based solely on the date of the article.
Hmmmmmm


21 posted on 07/02/2008 4:06:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock

Did I ever say that it was posted under breaking news? Not quite.

And these “Old news” articles are just that, Old news.
*yawn*

Just taking up space for the “Wack-a-Catholic” crowd.


22 posted on 07/02/2008 4:09:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: ClearCase_guy

There are people out there with a terrible hatred of Padre Pio.
==================================================================================================================================They Hate the Truth... he was said to go through so Many gloves that were bloodied. He was famous for his 18 hours hearing Confession.. He also used to have Physical encounters with the devil who would slam against walls in his bedroom in the middle of the night.

His stigmata dissappeared one hour before his death! you can see his Incorrupt Body displayed in Italy Today !


23 posted on 07/02/2008 4:09:23 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!! It's the sand we are afraid off!)
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To: Gamecock

>>And perpetuated by an anti-Catholic pot stirring freeper.<<

Don’t think of it as name calling!
It’s just catagorizing, truth be told.


24 posted on 07/02/2008 4:11:19 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom; Quix; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy

Odd, I was going to categorize your post as doing anything possible to take attention away from the posted article .

Care to enlighten us about why the article is wrong without following the usual RC defense of smearing the source of the post, the date of the original article, or your disdain of the poster? FWIW all of which have thus far been employed on this thread.


25 posted on 07/02/2008 4:31:22 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock
What does sanctity smell like?

Sulphuric acid

26 posted on 07/02/2008 4:32:48 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: netmilsmom
Just taking up space for the “Wack-a-Catholic” crowd.

I believe Padre Pio was a great mystic worthy of study by any Christian. Much of what he wrote parallels my own beliefs.

Time published a short article in April: Padre Pio, Pope Benedict: Soul Mates? which was nice, considering the source.

27 posted on 07/02/2008 4:35:28 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (If you know these things, you are blessed if you act upon them. John 13:17)
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To: Gamecock

These rumors dogged Pio throughout his life, and certain hostile opponents of him in the Church perpetuated these rumors against him. I read a book about him and most of them started with one obnoxious prelate in the 1920s who Padre Pio refused to denounce even though he was being slandered viciously.

The people close to Pio, truth be told, never made any of these accusations.

Also, if his stigmata were faked, why has all trace of them dissappeared from his body? He had the marks for 50 years! Thousands of people saw them or touched them. Doctors examined them. A few days before his death they were suddenly gone. If he had burned his flesh with acid, certainly there would be evidence of it on his skin.


28 posted on 07/02/2008 4:36:51 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: philly-d-kidder

“There are people out there with a terrible hatred of Padre Pio.”

Ya think?!!

“Assaults by the devil were not uncommon to the good Padre. It’s as if the devil was aware of the goodness of this man from the beginning in the seminary. The devil would try to intimidate the soul of Padre Pio, tempt him with the most vile scenes and even approach him as the “angel of light” (devil). One day the devil approached Padre as his superior and requested that he cease his prayers and penances. Padre asked this friar to repeat after him.....”Blessed Be Jesus!” The “friar” ran out and disappeared, leaving behind him smoke and the scent of sulfur. Satan would make disgusting noises, shouts, screams, and even spite at him and fling him around. There were many physical bouts, which left Padre bruised and shook-up.”


29 posted on 07/02/2008 4:40:45 AM PDT by mo
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To: Gamecock

because these were old rumours that have been debunked again and again.


30 posted on 07/02/2008 4:42:18 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: DannyTN

The gift of bi-location. That’s an interesting one. I’ve had several close friends come up to me or call me in a startled fashion, very certain they had just been talking with me in person when they turned away for a moment and I wasn’t there anymore. Almost as if a parallel universe exists.

Oops, have to go now, ...my doppelganger is due home any moment, you know...;^)


31 posted on 07/02/2008 4:43:47 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Damn,..did I write that? ;^)


32 posted on 07/02/2008 4:45:08 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: mo
“Assaults by the devil were not uncommon to the good Padre....Satan would make disgusting noises, shouts, screams, and even spite at him and fling him around. There were many physical bouts, which left Padre bruised and shook-up.”

Uh -- huh!!! These must have all happened before Padre discovered his gift of bilocation, right???

33 posted on 07/02/2008 4:54:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Gamecock

>>Care to enlighten us about why the article is wrong without following the usual RC defense of smearing the source of the post, the date of the original article, or your disdain of the poster? FWIW all of which have thus far been employed on this thread.<<

Nope, don’t care to, thanks!
If it was posted by a non-member of the “Wack-a-Catholic” club, especially one that doesn’t take the time to post tons of “Wack-A-Catholic” articles during Holy Week, I might consider it.

As it stands, I have better things to do. Packing for driving back home for my darling namesake’s first birthday.

Some things are really bigger than trying to convince the closed minded.


34 posted on 07/02/2008 5:00:29 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Gamecock

In other news...

St. John of the Cross Under Indictment!
St. Joan of Arc Heretic- Burns Tomorrow!
St Louis de Montfort Caught in Bar Room Brawl!
St. John Vianney Napoleonic Deserter!
Plus!
Exclusive Interview With St Augustine’s Secret Mistress!


35 posted on 07/02/2008 5:14:24 AM PDT by Eepsy (12-30-2008 +1)
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To: Gamecock
Not according to the The Catholic Anti-Defamation League

Donahue is a good guy, but he isn't infallible either (nor an I, of course).

36 posted on 07/02/2008 5:17:32 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: Eepsy
Yup!
Some people get unbridled joy out of being the National Enquirer for the Catholic Church!

You forgot

"Bat Boy to be Sainted"!

37 posted on 07/02/2008 5:32:03 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Gamecock

“Hate the Truth... he was said to go through so Many gloves that were bloodied. He was famous for his 18 hours hearing Confession.. He also used to have Physical encounters with the devil who would slam against walls in his bedroom in the middle of the night.

“His stigmata dissappeared one hour before his death! you can see his Incorrupt Body displayed in Italy Today !”

<-———————————————————————>

If this was on YouTube, it would rival Todd Bentley!


38 posted on 07/02/2008 5:34:27 AM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Well the one that made him a saint, JPII, who is going through it now would have known. He did a record 432 canionizations.


39 posted on 07/02/2008 5:44:09 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

True, the process of cannonization is truly laborious. Even those persons that are on the “fasttrack” Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta and even John Paul II, who are the most well-known examples, the process has been speeded up, but by the little bit. But it is still a bit laborious.


40 posted on 07/02/2008 5:55:34 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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