Catholic Factor 2004 [presidential Election -- Bush vs. Kerry on abortion]

Another intersting article from 2000 here by Deacon Keith A. Fournier:

First, there is a lack of understanding, among Catholics, of the implications of their faith on their public life and political participation. That will take a lot of teaching—what the Church calls catechesis—to change. The bishop’s letter is helpful. However, few Catholics have read it. This task will require a dynamic movement of Catholic citizens and the building of mediating associations of committed Catholics.
Second, the constrictive nature of the current political categories and loaded political conversation impedes an authentic Catholic discussion. I, for one, am tired of the old tired labels of "liberal" and "conservative." They do not work. I loved the words of Cardinal George when he accepted the invitation to serve in Chicago: "The faith is neither liberal or conservative, the faith is true." The implications of that faith in the formation of political judgments and participation will not fit these labels, either. Period.
Third, there is a lack of a popular, authentically Catholic voice articulating the treasury of truth called the Church's social teaching. That is one of the vital tasks of our age—not only for Catholics, but also for all citizens. That treasury includes vital human insights on life, true freedom, family, subsidiarity, and solidarity that can help immensely in our common social task as Americans.

You got it! Very interesting article!

My dad, at age 90, is an excellent example of that. Orthodox Catholic but always votes Democrat. Drives me nuts.

Thanks, PKM!

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician

William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"

Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage

Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)

Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians

Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?

Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk

Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"

Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers

Legislators can't have Eucharist, bishop says: Don't serve supporters of abortion rights, euthanasia
Wisc. Bishop Tells Pro-Abort. Catholic Pols: Change Your Stripes or Stay Away from Holy Communion
Diocese targets Granholm on abortion
NJ Governor McGreevey a devout Catholic, yet diplomatic {Barf Alert}
Communion ban on lawmakers who back abortion starts furor

Bishop's ban ignites church-state debate
(MI) Governor's effort is first step to give gays special benefits, weapon against religion [Granholm]
(Louisiana) LA Archbishop aims call at some Catholic politicians [Hughes]
Hughes exhorts Catholic pols to toe line
The end of Catholic politicians

Maher's Moment: A look back at Bishop Maher's Denial of Communion to a Pro-Abortion Politician [Lucy Killea]
Bishops rekindle anti-Catholic bias
TREND? "Pro-Abort Politicians "Shouldn't Dare Come to Communion", Madison Bishop Backs Burke
Dolan lauds result of bishop's actions against lawmakers
Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

Bishop Burke: Just Doing His Job
AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION
Massachusetts Democrats Back Gay Marriage Edict
Archbishop Would Refuse Communion To John Kerry
Leading His Flock: Has the new archbishop of St. Louis crossed a line?

Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order
Denial of communion raises stakes for bishops and pro-choice legislators
Roman Catholic church raises some eyebrows by warning politicians
Kerry dodges constitutional ban question (Gay Marriage)
Kerry Signed Letter Endorsing Homosexual Marriage

Kerry Signed Letter Backing Gay Marriage
Could Jennifer Granholm be the St. Thomas More of our time?
Church's embrace of Sebelius angers anti-abortion advocates[Kansas]
Kansas Catholic Bishop Says No to Pro-Abortion Politicians at Events [Sebelius]
Bishop calls on Catholics to snub pro-choice speakers [Arbp James Keleher, Kansas City, Kan.

Governor fears unrest unless same-sex marriages are halted (GAY MARRIAGE HOMOAGENDA CIVIL WAR).
The Deadly Dozen

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11
Kerry says he alone hasn't 'played games' on abortion
AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Archbishop [Raymond Burke] Would Refuse Communion To John Kerry

Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order

(re Kerry & Kennedy) Boston Bishop O'Malley Says "It Is Not Our Policy To Deny Communion"

Catholics Attack Kerry on Abortion Stance

KERRY & GAY MARRIAGE

Kerry tells off the Pope

Kerry dodges constitutional ban question (Gay Marriage)
John Kerry: A Call To Service Excerpt (on being a practicing Catholic)
Well,well,well!["Catholics for Kerry" leader works for United States Conference of Catholic Bishops]
Catholics Can't Back Laws Contrary to Life, Insists Pope
San Francisco's Catholic Mayor Shakes Up His Church on Gay Marriage[Gavin Newsom]

The US Constitution allows the States to establish churches - the Congregational Church was established in Massachusetts until 1833.

Why shouldn't Christ's Church be established as the religion of the state, sinkspur?

Holy cow....... with all those links I thought Uncle Bill had returned......... LOL

I've been collecting them for quite awhile.

Trouble is I think I have some repeats in there so have to edit it.

Hope your eyes are OK now. LOL!

Why shouldn't Christ's Church be established as the religion of the state, sinkspur?

Because, in a constitutional republic, the Baptist Church, or Mormonism, could be established as the State Church, if so desired by the people's representatives.

No thanks. I'd prefer to have the state mind the state's business, and allow us all to worship as we please.

Also posted here: Catholic Factor 2004

Hogwash. Consider the source! Catholics for a Free Choice is a group whose membership could probably fit in a phone booth. They are funded by major foundations which have always been anti-Catholic; I believe the Payboy Foundation is one of its biggest supporters.

Any poll they do is going to be skewed to return answers favorable to the group's point of view, so I don't believe any of its findings.

DOH! Payboy Foundation = PLAYboy foundation!

Bump for reference. Great collection...thanks!

Sorry, I missed that!

CFFC (Catholics for a Free Choice) is a dissenting organization and not endorsed by the Catholic Church. They do not speak for Catholics or for the Catholic Church.

Check out this link for dissent:

http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/

thanks for all the links

I grew up hearing that the Republicans are for the rich and the democrats are for the poor.

I heard that too as a kid. Now, of all my relatives, the ones who go to church, for the most part vote republican. The democrats, with a few exceptions, have all fallen away.

The Philadelphia Catholic Standard and Times published an article after the 2000 election. I can't remember it exactly, but I think it was something like 80% of weekly Mass attendees voted for Bush, monthly like 65%, and never was like 30%. I think, with Catholics as a whole, the vote was pretty evenly split, with Gore having a slight advantage. I can't remember if these numbers were for the country or just the Philly area.

I believe the Playboy Foundation is one of its biggest supporters.

Correct (other sources of funding listed as well)...

According to records filed with the IRS, Catholics For a Free Choice, of Washington, DC, has received thousands of dollars from the Playboy Foundation.

Source

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~