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Shooting at NYC City Hall. 2 dead, including Concilman James Davis

Posted on 07/23/2003 11:19:01 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Reporters diving for cover at City Hall.

Shots are coming from second floor.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1photo206; banglist; black; bloomberg; casualties; cityhall; councilman; giuliani; newyork; newyorkcity; ny; nyc; nypd; othnielboazaskew; pataki; security; sociopath; soulbrother; strange
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To: Labyrinthos
An armed society is a polite society.
641 posted on 07/23/2003 1:54:20 PM PDT by Semper911 (Bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Labyrinthos
Suppose a mere 5% of the entire population of NYC decides they want a permit. Where are you going to efficiently test and train 400,000 people?

This would never be an issue. 50% of the people who live in New York City are convicted violent felons and therefore wouldn't be able to get a permit anyway. Another 40% are recent immigrants who are either here illegally or could never pass a background check due to lack of verifiable information from their home country. Of the remaining 10% (about 800,000 people), I'd say that 95% of them are liberal wussies who would rather vote for Pat Buchanan than assume the responsibilities of gun ownership.

That leaves about 4,000 people, by my reckoning. 3,995 of them are law enforcement officers and already carry guns anyway, so that leaves just five.

One of those five was just assassinated at City Hall today, another was arrested on the subway this morning for taking up two seats, and a third was a smoker who just moved out of New York.

So that leaves just you and me.

I'll see ya at the range.

642 posted on 07/23/2003 1:54:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Gabz
And then went into an anti-smoker tirade and on and on about how some bar and restaurant owners claim to be hurting because of the ban and tempers tend to fly over smoking issues.

Total baloney. I was watching at the time, and he said nothing of the sort.

Look, I too am opposed to the stupid smoking bans and unfair demonization of smokers, but you actually hurt your cause by exaggerating and similarly unfairly smearing others. About as counterproductive as the dolts who toss their cigarettes butts on the street, sidewalk, grass, etc.

643 posted on 07/23/2003 1:54:42 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: StriperSniper
You ever notice that Clinton's nose looks more and more like an ass.
644 posted on 07/23/2003 1:55:16 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Mo1
But they're calling him CLARENCE Askew, not Othniel Bogz, oh I am so confused now...
645 posted on 07/23/2003 1:55:41 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Was this a Harvey Milk sort of crime?
646 posted on 07/23/2003 1:56:07 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Alberta's Child
LOL!
647 posted on 07/23/2003 1:56:07 PM PDT by Semper911 (Bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
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648 posted on 07/23/2003 1:56:46 PM PDT by jern
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To: Petronski
Charge them a fee and build the infrastructure to train them.

At $10 a piece you couldn't even afford to build thenm a parking space. At $100 a pop, you could probably buy a couple acres on the dump on Staten Island.

649 posted on 07/23/2003 1:57:04 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I stated specifically that he was quoting from the AP regarding the rally.

I also stated that the rally is TOMORROW - his information was WRONG and so he should not have been speculating anything about it at all.

I will repeat again there was no rally scheduled for today - it is TOMORROW.

A correction to that wrong information should have been made.

Having been an on air reporter I know exactly how he is getting his information - it is called rip-n-read - and corrections should be made when there has been mininformation provided.

He stated the rally was today - I wonder if people heard that and may think they missed the rally and don't bother attending tomorrow.

We are talking major market network news here, not small town first jobs - they should ALL know better.
650 posted on 07/23/2003 1:57:17 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: Mo1
shep was only pointing out about the protest across the street....he has nothing to retract...

he would be amiss if he didn't mention any civil protests going on or possible hostilities going on, wouldn't he?

651 posted on 07/23/2003 1:57:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: hellinahandcart
But they're calling him CLARENCE Askew, not Othniel Bogz, oh I am so confused now...

Oh heck, so am I .. all I heard was Askew

Bloomberg is suppose to have a press conference in a few minutes

652 posted on 07/23/2003 1:57:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: hellinahandcart
The reports my kid is getting out of NY media (TV & radio) is that the shooter is named Clarence Askew.
653 posted on 07/23/2003 1:57:44 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
Looks like Othinial Askew
654 posted on 07/23/2003 1:58:57 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: dead; All; PhiKapMom
"What I'm gathering from reports is this:

A white guy, who is black or hispanic, shot Davis and somebody else, was then shot and killed by Davis, then he was shot and wounded by a plain clothes detective, then he escaped unharmed in the ensuing melee, and Bloomberg is reporting that democracy is dead."

You are 100% correct per current reports.

FYI: Bloomberg is going to hold a press conference. That ought to be good. Then we'll have more clarity on the matter. I want my democracy back!

655 posted on 07/23/2003 1:59:32 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Click On my Name - Visit My Profile)
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To: alisasny
I wonder if he uses Clarence as a first name....John Gibson just said "Clarence."
656 posted on 07/23/2003 2:00:03 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: cherry
shep was only pointing out about the protest across the street....he has nothing to retract...

I wasn't home at the time and didn't hear what he said

657 posted on 07/23/2003 2:00:03 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: StriperSniper
Rick should have 'chunked' billyboy to the bluefish, they will eat anything

So, Rick could've referred to William the Impeached as "Chum"?

658 posted on 07/23/2003 2:00:08 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You - on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: Gabz
OK, how about I offer a retraction to a portion of my post#643. He did discuss the issue of the smoking ban, as you stated. I should have been clear that what I take issue with you about was the characterization of his discussion as an "anti-smoking tirade".
659 posted on 07/23/2003 2:00:22 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: AppyPappy
I ain't gonna spank it.
660 posted on 07/23/2003 2:00:23 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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