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USO Canteen FReeper Style~Ancient Egyptian Military: Fortresses, Siege Warfare~July 22, 2003
MilitaryHistory.com at the Internet | July 22, 2003 | LaDivaLoca

Posted on 07/22/2003 2:52:06 AM PDT by LaDivaLoca

 
 
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ANCIENT WARFARE




The oldest remaining documentation of military campaigns come from the Middle East
where the Egyptians, Assyrians, Hittites, and Persians were the main combatants.
Read about the rise of standing armies and how battles were fought 4000 years ago.



 

Continuation of Part I:

Ancient Egyptian Military

Fortresses

Unless an enemy was willing to besiege a stronghold until it surrendered or could surprise its garrison and subdue it, he had to conquer it by forcing the gates, by scaling the walls or by breaching them. Since earliest times measures were taken to prevent these possibilities.

The walls were, if not very strong at least of massive thickness and higher than the portable ladders that could be built. The gates were specially protected. Wall tops have decayed completely, but according to drawings there were cornices all around behind which the defenders could take cover. The main rampart was surrounded by an outer wall of lesser height.

   

The Old Kingdom

A fortress at Abydos, the funerary enclosure of Khasekhemwy, was built to protect the temple of Osiris. It was surrounded by a massive inner wall made of mud bricks, about twelve metres high, six metres thick at the base, about five metres wide at the top, and a five metre tall outer wall with a gap of about three metres between them. This arrangement prevented sappers from attacking the foot of the main wall under cover of portable shelters.

Apart from the gates and posterns there were no openings in the walls such as loopholes, machicolations or the like. The main entrance was near the north eastern corner, with further gates in the south and east walls. The gap in the outer wall could be closed with wooden doors. Behind this gate there was a courtyard with another narrow passage leading into a further court surrounded by the main and two retaining walls. One had to pass through a sally-port to gain access to the interior.

   
This layout gave the defenders the advantage of height for a considerable amount of time. The attackers could be showered with arrows and other projectiles without being able to respond in kind.

The entrance in the eastern wall had similar characteristics: narrow passages to slow down the attackers, forced changes in the direction in which they had to proceed, and courtyards surrounded by walls, which were manned by archers.

   

    The Middle Kingdom

    By this time the rulers were certainly aware of the need to control the flow of people into their country, be it from the south, the west or the east.

Asiatics who roam the land.
Foes have risen in the East,
Asiatics have come down to Egypt.
        The fictional 'Prophesies of Neferti', 11/12th dynasty

The Eastern Border

    Amenemhet I began the construction of the Wall of the Prince, a string of fortresses
on the eastern border of the Delta, taking advantage of the watery obstacles of the region.

One will build the Walls-of-the-Ruler,
To bar Asiatics from entering Egypt;
They shall beg water as supplicants,
So as to let their cattle drink.
Then Order will return to its seat,
While Chaos is driven away.
              'Prophesies of Neferti', 11/12th dynasty

 

And in the fictional account of Sinuhe

I came up to the Wall of the Ruler, made to oppose the Asiatics and crush the Sand-Crossers. I took a crouching position in a bush for fear lest watchmen upon the wall where their day's [duty] was might see me.
             The Tale of Sinuhe

    These fortifications were more or less well defended and maintained over the centuries. Under the coregency of Amenemhet II and Senusret II, the official Hapu had the following inscription made

Made in the year 3, under the majesty of Horus: Seshmutowe (Senusret II), corresponding to the year 35 under the majesty of Horus: Hekenemmat (Amenemhet II), The [....], Hapu came, in order to make an inspections in the fortress of Wawat
James Henry Breasted Ancient Records of Egypt Part One, § 616


    During the 2nd Intermediate Period they were probably largely abandoned, but the New Kingdom saw their restoration. Under Seti I there seems to have existed a bridge at Sile spanning a crocodile infested waterway.

   

The Southern Border

  Senusret III fortified the southern border of Egypt after his conquest of Nubia by building strongholds on either side of the Nile close to the second cataract. 
   
At Semna only the side facing the Nile had any natural protection. The eastern wall, built on top of a rocky slope, was only 15 metres high, while in the other directions the walls reached heights of about 25 metres with ramparts 9 metres thick at ground level jutting out from the main wall.











At Kumma on the right bank advantage was taken of a natural hillock of about 60 metres width with steep rocky faces. The inner and outer walls follow the contour of the knoll.

The entrance is a passage between two ramparts close to each other and thus easily protected by crossfire. The outer wall is at four metres distance from the inner wall for most of its trajectory, apart from two bastion-like salients.

The walls were built of mud bricks and reinforced with horizontal wooden beams. The lower part was practically perpendicular, while the upper half was at an angle of twenty degrees to the vertical. The floor inside the wall was raised almost to the level of the top of the ramparts.

The outer drystone wall rose to a height of two to three metres and had a gap in its northern side opposite the main gate of the fortress.

All these precautions were to no avail: a breach in the southern wall between the two ramparts closest to the river indicates that the fortification was conquered.

   
Buhen was the main garrison town among these fortresses protecting the Nubian frontier, a few tens of kilometres north of Semna and Kumma, and a string of further forts (Mirgissa just south of the 2nd cataract, Dabenarti, Askut, Shalfak, Uronarti) in between. It had two concentric rings of ramparts, the Egyptian officials living inside the inner walls and the mercenary troops, which were quite possibly native, occupying the outer circle. With its population of several thousand inhabitants it was the administrative centre of the region. It was abandoned by the Egyptians during the 20th dynasty.
   

The New Kingdom

   
Little changed over the centuries as far as weapon and fortification techniques were concerned until the Egyptians came into contact with the far more warlike Asiatics. During their campaigns in Canaan and Retenu they encountered fortified places built of stone, with towers and sometimes even water filled moats.
These cities and fortresses easily withstood traditional Egyptian siege techniques. Megiddo for instance fell to Thutmose only after it was beleaguered for seven months.
During the 19th dynasty a number of Canaan-style stone fortresses were erected along the Egyptian eastern frontier. They were called by their Semitic name magadilu (In Hebrew for instance migdal means tower; cf. the biblical Migdol [Jer. 44:1; 46:14] ).
   
No strongholds of this era remain, but the temple of Ramses III at Medinet Habu shows a number of features characteristic of New Kingdom fortification. A crenellated outer stone wall 4 metres high protects the whole eastern side. The entrance which passes through a massive bastion, is slightly wider than a metre and flanked by two guardrooms. 
The two-towered migdol is 22 metres high, its front 25 metres wide. It surrounds and controls a courtyard which one has to cross in order to enter the temple. Its walls have windows and loopholes, high enough to be inaccessible to the enemy on the ground. There was also a parapet along the edge of the flat roof.
   
Its foundation wall is five metres high and has a slight inclination. The reason for this is twofold: the wall becomes less vulnerable to sapping and the projectiles dropped from above bounce off the inclined stone wall, changing their direction and hurtling on a horizontal trajectory into the massed enemies, which increases their chance of hitting someone.
   
At strategic places large depots were built. At Tharu (possibly identical with Sile) on the eastern border these were rectangular structures inside the citadel, covered an area of 12,000 m², had three metre thick mud-brick walls and opened on an adjacent yard.
   

 

Siege warfare

   

Some recorded sieges were prolonged affairs going on for months and even years, and a few of them are important markers in Egyptian history:

  • The successful siege of Hatwaret(Avaris) by Ahmose I signalled the end of the Hyksos presence in Egypt.

  • The three year siege and taking of Sharuhen in southern Canaan opened the path to start to hegemony over the Levant.

  • With the fall of Megido after a seven month siege Canaan came under direct control of the pharaohs.

   

    Thutmose III: Megiddo ca. 1482 BCE

   
Megiddo lay in the plain of Yizreel, controlling the east-west traffic from the central coastal plains of Canaan to the Lake of Tiberias region and the north-south routes between Akka and the Beth Shean area. The town was seemingly quite sizable, having between 5000 and 10,000 inhabitants. The excavations of the tell of Megiddo uncovered ramparts dating to the Israelite period (half a millennium after Thutmose) of 800 metres length, encompassing an area of about 50,000 m².

The city walls were built of bricks and had a thickness of up to ten metres during the early Bronze Age and a height of several storeys, but the whole of Canaan had declined since then, and Thutmose had to overcome a wall of a mere 5 metres thickness and correspondingly smaller height.

   
The inhabitants of Canaanite cities depended upon wells for their water supply. These were generally at the foot of the growing tells, and thus outside the city walls. The wells were consequently often covered up and tunnels were excavated to make them accessible from the city interior. Most Canaanite cities had only one gate, which had to be wide enough for the passage of chariots and carts.

During the battle of Megido the city gate was barred and the walls were manned. When the fleeing charioteers reached the city, the defenders refused to open the gate, preventing the pursuing Egyptian chariotry from gaining access. The Canaanites had to abandon their chariots and were pulled up the city walls. The Egyptian chronicler thought that if only the army of his majesty had not given their heart to plundering the things of the enemy, they would have captured Megiddo at this moment. This may have been wishful thinking. The defenders had seemingly not panicked. There must have been a certain amount of confusion which could have been exploited by the attackers in order to organize an immediate assault by the infantry carrying the necessary equipment such as ladders, on condition that the shock troops had been deployed near-by previously.

Whatever the reasons for the failure to storm the town immediately, an assault was deemed unnecessary later on despite the importance of the beleagered rulers.

Then spake his majesty on hearing the words of his army, saying: "Had ye captured this city afterward, behold, I would have given Re this day; because every chief of every country that has revolted is within it; and because it is the capture of a thousand cities, this capture of Megiddo. Capture ye mightily, mightily." James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents. (Chicago: 1906), Part II § 432

    The Egyptians prepared for a prolonged siege. Most Canaanite leaders were either captured, killed on the battlefield, or managed to escape into Megiddo. The population of the land was left leaderless and did not constitute a danger to a beleagering army. The defenders could not expect any outside intervention. Their water supply was assured; but it was just a question of time before the food reserves were exhausted and the city had to surrender.

    His majesty commanded the officers of the troops to go, assigning to each his place. They measured this city, surrounding it with an inclosure, walled about with green timber of all their pleasant trees. His majesty himself was upon the fortification east of this city, inspecting. It was walled about with its thick wall. Its name was made: "Menkheperre Thutmose III-is-the-Surrounder-of-the-Asiatics." People were stationed to watch over the tent of his majesty; to whom it was said: "Steady of heart! Watch." His majesty commanded, saying: "Let not one among them come forth outside, beyond this wall, except to come out in order to knock at the other door of their fortification." Now, all that his majesty did to this city, to that wretched foe and his wretched army, was recorded on each day by its the day's name. Then it was recorded upon a roll of leather in the temple of Amon this day. James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents. (Chicago: 1906), Part II § 433

   
 After seven months of siege the Canaanites surrendered, and the whole region came under the hegemony of the Egyptians. There was little direct rule and Thutmose's policy of generally letting the local kings rule in his name was continued throughout much of the New Kingdom.

    Behold, the chiefs of this country came to render their portions, to do obeisance to the fame of his majesty, to crave breath for their nostrils, because of the greatness of his power, because of the might of the fame of his majesty the country came to his fame, bearing their gifts, consisting of silver, gold, lapis lazuli, malachite; bringing clean grain, wine, large cattle, and small cattle for the army of his majesty. Each of the Kode among them bore the tribute southward. Behold, his majesty appointed the chiefs anew. James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents. (Chicago: 1906), Part II § 434

   
Gaza, the town closest to their own country, was the centre of the Egyptians' power in Canaan, which suggests that - apart from having to pay tribute - the local kingdoms served mostly as buffer-states between Egypt and a succession of warlike neighbours in the north, Mitanni, Hatti and later, after the decline of Egyptian power in the Levant, Assyria.
   

Ramses II: Dapur ca. 1296 BCE

   
In the years following the battle of Kadesh the whole of Canaan was in turmoil. With Hittite support the local rulers defied the Egyptians. Ramses II set out to suppress them, and he was pressed enough not to waste time with prolonged sieges. Askalon, close to Egyptian border was stormed. A relief at Karnak shows soldiers scaling the walls with the help of ladders and an officer trying to break down the city gate with an axe.

    The wretched city which his majesty captured, when it rebelled, Askalon. It (the city) says: "It is joy to be subject to thee, and delight to cross thy boundaries. Take thou the heritage, that we may speak of thy valor in all unknown countries.
James Henry Breasted Ancient Records of Egypt
Part III § 355

In the eighth year of his reign Ramses was reconquering the Galilee. Fortified towns like Bethanath, Merom and Dapur (probably Tabor) were captured. It seems that some Hittites were stationed at Dapur.

   

Said the vanquished of Kheta in praising the Good God: "Give to us the breath that thou givest, O good ruler. Lo, we are under thy sandals; thy terror, it has penetrated the land of Kheta. Its chief is fallen because of thy fame; we are like herds of horses, when the fierce-eyed lion attacks them."
James Henry Breasted Ancient Records of Egypt
Part III § 359

Piye: Hermopolis ca. 715 BCE

By the time the Ethiopians made their incursions into Egypt, walls, siege tactics and equipment had undergone changes, mostly influenced by developments in the Asiatic East. Early shelters protecting sappers armed with poles trying to breach mud-brick ramparts gave way to battering rams.

Enclosures were still erected, preventing surprise sorties. Raised platforms from which the town could be showered with missiles, decreased the advantage the defenders had on their tall ramparts.

   

Behold, [he] besieges Heracleopolis, he has completely invested it, not letting comers-out come out, and not letting goers-in go in, fighting every day. He measured it off in its whole circuit, every prince knows his wall; he stations every man of the princes and rulers of walled towns over his respective portion.
The Piankhi Stela James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents.
(Chicago: 1906), Part IV § 818

Then they fought against Tetehen, great in might. They found it filled with soldiers, with every valiant man of the Northland. Then the battering-ram was employed against it, its wall was overthrown, and a great slaughter was made among them. of unknown number; also the son of the chief of Me, Tefnakhte. Then they sent to his majesty concerning it, (but) his heart was not satisfied therewith.
The Piankhi Stela James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents.
(Chicago: 1906), Part IV § 838

He set up for himself the camp on the southwest of Hermopolis (Hmnw) and besieged it daily. An embankment was made, to inclose the wall; a tower was raised to elevate the archers while shooting, and the slingers while slinging stones, and slaying people among them daily.
The Piankhi Stela James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents.
(Chicago: 1906), Part IV § 842

    While some of the Lower Egyptian towns were besieged, Piye decided against this in the case of Memphis after Tefnakht had gone north to raise troops for the defense of the city. The building of a causeway was proposed, as was the erection of siege towers, but Piye took advantage of the fact that the harbour was not as well defended nor the river wall as well manned as the huge ramparts facing north. The ships captured, he seems to have used them for scaling the city wall facing the Nile.

    When day broke, at early morning, his majesty reached Memphis. When he landed on the north of it, he found that the water had approached to the walls, the ships mooring at [the walls of] Memphis. Then his majesty saw it was strong, and that the wall was raised by a new rampart, and battlements manned with mighty men. There was found no way of attacking it. Every man told his opinion among the army of his majesty, according to every rule of war. Every man said; "Let us besiege [it] .... ; lo, its troops are numerous." Others said: "Let a causeway be made against it, let us elevate the ground to its walls. Let us bind together a tower; let us erect masts and make the spars into a bridge to it. We will divide it on this (plan) on every side of it, on the high ground and ..... on the north of it, in order to elevate the ground at its walls, that we may find a way for our feet.

Then his majesty was enraged against it like a panther; he said: "I swear, as Re loves me, as my father, Amon [who fashioned me], favors me, this shall befall it, according to the command of Amon. This is what men say: '[The Northland] and the nomes of the South, they opened to him from afar, they did not set Amon in their heart, they knew not what he commanded. He (i.e. Amon) made him (i.e. Piankhi) to show forth his fame, to cause his might to be seen.' I will take it like a flood of water. I have commanded .... ..... ..... ."

    His majesty himself came to line up the ships, as many as there were. His majesty commanded his army (saying): "Forward against it! Mount the walls! Penetrate the houses over the river. If one of you gets through upon the wall, let him not halt before it, [so that] the (hostile) troops may not repulse you. It were vile that we should close up the South, should land [in] the North and lay siege in 'Balance of the Two Lands'."

Then Memphis was taken as (by) a flood of water, a multitude of people were slain therein, and brought as living captives to the place where his majesty was.
The Piankhi Stela James Henry Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents. (Chicago: 1906), Part IV §§ 861 ff

 

Next Tuesday, the continuation of Part I: Ancient Egpytian Military
The Palestine Campaign of Seti I
The Battle of Kadesh




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RACKKK The 101 Airbourne they did it Linda

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162 posted on 07/22/2003 3:24:22 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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The Aspen fire is contained, and they are looking into what caused it.

There are still a couple of fires up on the White Mountain Apache Reservation. Even with the rain we are starting to get, this is going to be a bad fire season.

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Those pancakes look very interesting. Never ate one with olives before. And what is that other thing on it, the pink/red one?
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Raining again!
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Good evening Diva. Great thread again today, thank you.

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Thanks for the Egyptian siege history, get to learn something new today!
 
60 years ago...TODAY
 
US troops take Palermo, Axis forces escape
Thursday, July 22, 1943 www.onwar.com

German soldiers fighting on SicilyIn Sicily... American forces enter Palermo and isolate 50,000 Italian troops in the west of the island. The Axis mobile forces, including most of the German forces, escape to the northeast corner of the island.

In the Aleutian Islands... US naval forces (2 battleships and 4 cruisers as well as lighter units) bombard Japanese held Kiska Island.

 
            22 JULY 1943
          army air crop 2.jpg (16864 bytes)
AIRCRAFT MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT:
  A-20, Douglas Havoc
  B-17, Boeing Flying Fortress
  B-24, Consolidated Liberator
  B-25, North American Mitchell
  B-26, Martin Marauder
  C-47, Douglas Skytrain
  P-38, Lockheed Lightning
  P-40, Curtiss
  Wellington, Vickers (RAF)

AMERICAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS

  ALASKA (Eleventh Air Force)
    In the Aleutian Islands, 26 B-25's, 17 B-24's, 13 P-40's, and 20
P-38's
hit North Head, Main Camp, and the submarine base at Kiska Island,
as well as coastal defenses and AA guns at both Kiska and Little Kiska
Islands,
starting numerous fires. Intense and heavy AA fire downs one
B-25 (crew saved) and damages 18 aircraft of which another B-25 crashes
at base. 1 B-25 photographs the S and W Kiska Island shores. 1 B-24 flies
radar reconnaissance over Kiska Island.
    The 77th Bombardment Squadron (Medium), 28th Composite Group, based
on Adak Island begins operating from Attu Island with B-25's.

EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Eighth Air Force)
  The results of the first phase of the Combined Bomber Offensive (CBO)
are good according to a report of the British Joint Intelligence Commit-
tee.
The report maintains the CBO has caused Germany to adopt a defensive
air strategy resulting in more than half its fighter strength being
employed on the Western Front at the expense of the Eastern and Mediter-
ranean Fronts
as well as causing considerable damage to transportation,
the synthetic rubber industry, and the fuel, iron, and coal industries of
the Ruhr.

MEDITERRANEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS

  EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN (Ninth Air Force)
    P-40's escort C-47's to Ponte Olivo, Sicily.

  WESTERN MEDITERRANEAN (Northwest African Air Force)
    During the night of 21/22 Jul, Northwest African Strategic Air Force
(NASAF) Wellingtons
bomb Capodichino Airfield and Salerno marshalling
yard
in Italy. In Sicily, Northwest African Tactical Air Force (NATAF)
light bombers
hit Randazzo, the railroad at Falcone, and the road W of
Marina. In Italy during the day, 100+ B-17's bomb the Battipaglia mar-
shalling yard and Foggia; B-26's hit a Salerno bridge and marshalling
yard; and fighters fly a sweep over Maddalena Island, strafing factories,
trucks, and small vessels. In Sicily, NATAF light bombers bomb Adrano,
Paterno, Troina, and Misterbianco
.
    On the ground in Sicily, US Seventh Army troops take Palermo; and the
1st Infantry Division continues N, taking Bompietro.
    The 85th and 86th Bombardment Squadrons (Light), 47th Bombardment
Group (Light)
, transfer from Soliman, Tunisia to Malta with A-20's.

SOUTH PACIFIC THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Thirteenth Air Force)
  In the Solomon Islands, 20+ B-17's and B-24's, 40+ US Navy dive bomb-
ers
, and 100+ Allied fighter aircraft attack shipping in the area off
Buin, Bougainville Island. A sea-plane carrier is sunk, and damaging
hits are claimed on several other vessels.

SOUTHWEST PACIFIC THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Fifth Air Force)
  In New Guinea, 50+ B-24's, B-25's, and B-26's blast troops, AA guns,
defensive positions, and targets of opportunity in the battle zones at
Komiatum, on Komiatum Ridge, at Kela Mountain, at Salamaua, and along
trails near Komiatum and Salamaua. B-24's bomb an oil refinery, docks,
and railroad yards at Soerabaja, Java. B-25's hit targets of opportunity
on Selaroe Island in the Moloccas Islands.

The Feeley Crew
 
The Feeley Crew, 514th Squadron.
Standing left to right; Capt. Ed Feeley - Pilot, Capt. Richard Beck - Co-Pilot,
1st Lt. Clifford Guggenheim - Navigator, 1st. Lt. Irvin Bloom - Bombardier,
T Sgt. Charles Cannon - Radio Operator

Front row; S Sgt. Fredrick Bond - Assistant Radio Operator, M Sgt. Richard Herbert - Crew Chief,
S Sgt. Ray Romack - Tail Gunner, T Sgt. Frederick (Fred) Russek - Engineer

"Wash's Tub" (#41-27511) flew 73 combat missions, 3 low level missions, including the Ploesti Low Level.
 This picture was taken at International Airport, Washington, D.C., Sept. 1943, Official Army Air Corp. Photo.

First War Plane to return to the U.S. from the 376th Bomb Group.


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LOL! It kind of fits since I work in Intelligence. That was my callsign in Bosnia...

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169 posted on 07/22/2003 5:05:37 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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171 posted on 07/22/2003 5:24:36 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca (CONGRATULATIONS to the proud papa and mama for their new bundle of joy!)
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You guys keep posting these beautiful, peaceful pictures. I have to keep saving them to my pictures. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this and all that you do.
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Nice to "see you" "drop in", even though I know you lurk here all the time. LOL
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Welcome home from a "hard day at the office".


175 posted on 07/22/2003 5:32:59 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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Thanks, Diva, for another wonderful thread. So much stuff to read about and learn.
176 posted on 07/22/2003 5:34:31 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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"even though I know you lurk here all the time."

Every day, dear.
177 posted on 07/22/2003 5:34:47 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: SouthernHawk
They do look like planes among the hieroglyphs. Is the hoax done on the picture or on some fake heiroglyphs?
178 posted on 07/22/2003 5:36:08 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca (Prayers for our President, our Nation and our Military)
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To: Kathy in Alaska
GREAT news, Kathy ! Thanks. MY comment on another thread:

Lt. Gen. Sanchez Press Briefing on Uday and Qusay Hussein
(DoD Transcript)

Q: Can you tell us, sir, in what manner they died? Was it --

Sanchez: They died in a fierce gun battle. They resisted the detention and the efforts of the coalition forces to go in there and apprehend them, and they were killed in the ensuing gunfight and the attacks that we conducted on the residence. And tomorrow I'll give you additional details on how that transpired.

Bummer (NOT !!!)


179 posted on 07/22/2003 5:37:20 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Tonk, I wish all the best with your business. It's tougher to be your own boss but it sure has it's advantages too.
180 posted on 07/22/2003 5:37:46 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca (Prayers for our President, our Nation and our Military)
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