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Massive civil fraud verdict against Trump gets frosty reception at New York appeals court
Politico ^ | September 26, 2024 | Erica Orden

Posted on 09/26/2024 4:26:10 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Appeals court judges appeared to question the legitimacy of the civil fraud case against Donald Trump as the former president urged the court Thursday to overturn a judgment against him that has ballooned, with interest, to more than $478 million.

In February, a Manhattan trial judge found that Trump and other defendants — including his adult sons, Don Jr. and Eric, along with several business associates — fraudulently inflated his net worth and the value of his real estate properties to obtain favorable rates from banks and insurers.

The nearly half-billion-dollar penalty ordered by the trial judge initially threatened to trigger a financial crisis for Trump. But a New York appeals court sharply reduced the amount of the bond he had to post to avoid immediate enforcement of the verdict. Trump is now asking that same court to toss out the verdict entirely.

During oral arguments on Thursday, some members of the five-judge appeals court panel suggested that New York Attorney General Tish James had overstepped by using the particular New York fraud statute she used to bring the case against Trump. As soon as Deputy Solicitor General Judith Vale, arguing for James, began her opening remarks, she was cut off by Associate Justice David Friedman, who questioned whether her office had ever before used the statute “to upset a private business transaction that was between equally sophisticated partners.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: appealscourt; arrestgarland; arrestleticiajames; dojsedition; donaldtrump; electioninterference; fraudtrial; harassment; lawfare; leticiajames; letitiajames; newyork; newyorkcity; persecution; tishjames
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This Lawfare "fraud" trial was so ABSURD that even appeals judges in liberal New York appear to be about to OVERTURN it.
1 posted on 09/26/2024 4:26:10 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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I think I saw TWO of the Judges were BLACK.....hmmmmmmm.....doesn;t bode well for TRUMP!


2 posted on 09/26/2024 4:27:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PJ-Comix

That is until Team ByeDone-Hairbrain THREATENS them to change their minds.


3 posted on 09/26/2024 4:29:45 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: PJ-Comix

i clicked on the link despite hating politico. Seeing the picture they used of DJT further affirms why i hate politico.


4 posted on 09/26/2024 4:30:33 PM PDT by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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One thing working in Trump’s favor. EVERY business in NY state is watching these judges with a spotting scope. What they decide will change the business world in whole state of NY for the worst. Hopefully these judges realize that their own future careers are absolutely on the line right now. They will not survive the backlash if this scam is allowed to prevail against the business world.


5 posted on 09/26/2024 4:33:46 PM PDT by Openurmind
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Even if the transactions at issue in the Trump case “went down fine,” Moulton said, similar fraudulent conduct in the future “might not go down well, and someone would be harmed by that.”

maybe then there should be an explicit law on the books to deal with it if/when it happens.

6 posted on 09/26/2024 4:50:43 PM PDT by drypowder
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Not necessarily.


7 posted on 09/26/2024 4:55:37 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: PJ-Comix

You know what happens when someone is caught lying?

Yep, they are a known liars for life. That’s all the bogus cases against Trump. All liars, thieves, and grifters for life. Labeled for life.


8 posted on 09/26/2024 4:55:41 PM PDT by Boomer (The dems and rinos (rat crap) have pegged the evil needle so hard, Satan now answers to them.)
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To: God luvs America

Exactly. Despicable. The Presstitutes are vile.


9 posted on 09/26/2024 4:57:05 PM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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Don’t believe anything until they rule on it. We’ve been on this roller coaster before and it always ends up the same …disappointment.


10 posted on 09/26/2024 4:58:35 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Even if the transactions at issue in the Trump case “went down fine,” Moulton said, similar fraudulent conduct in the future “might not go down well, and someone would be harmed by that.”

So we need to punish him for “Future Crime”...

Seems I’ve seen that in a movie before...

It didn’t work out well there either...


11 posted on 09/26/2024 5:02:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Associate Justice David Friedman, who questioned whether her office had ever before used the statute “to upset a private business transaction that was between equally sophisticated partners.”

Yep that’s pretty damn frosty all right. The corrupt prosecutor deserves it and worse. She may get it.


12 posted on 09/26/2024 5:09:24 PM PDT by TalBlack (Fight Fight Fight America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOJdMog6T0)
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To: Ann Archy

You didn’t notice?

Black Lives Matter has become BLACL LIVES MAGA!


13 posted on 09/26/2024 5:34:25 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
A few selections from the rather huge 'lawfare' keyword, sorted:

14 posted on 09/26/2024 5:41:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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I was looking at Lead Prosecutor Judge Engoron and knew I'd seen that before:

Judge Mad

Hopefully these appeals judges will dismiss this case for the sake of their state's remaining businesses. If you're damned either way you may as well go out doing right.

15 posted on 09/26/2024 5:42:46 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (If you merely LOOK the fool people won't take you seriously.)
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The problem is...These are NY judges....and more likely than not...everyone is a Dem.


16 posted on 09/26/2024 6:10:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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All this and he’ll be touched very gently by any penalties by
the time they are all done.

The conspiratorial crew has come out looking pretty good here.


17 posted on 09/26/2024 6:14:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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Have (and had no doubt from the beginning), that it’d get overturned. The whole case was blatantly political.

Problem is, because it was political, the narrative in the MSM is already set in stone and millions of gullible fools believe it’s “fact.”


18 posted on 09/26/2024 6:20:38 PM PDT by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
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The problem remains...I just looked them all. All 5 are Dems.


19 posted on 09/26/2024 6:31:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: PJ-Comix

Everybody knew this indictment was a joke. The Ghettopotamus was looking to pick up a 200-million-dollar nest egg.


20 posted on 09/26/2024 6:44:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Jamaican/Injun "immigration" plan. Dilute and pollute until America is a third world sewer..)
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