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US Considering Recognizing Palestinian State Without Negotiations With Israel
Red State ^ | 01/31/2024 | streiff

Posted on 01/31/2024 8:33:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The Biden White House intends to pursue a policy of recognizing a Palestinian state at the end of the Israel-Hamas War without the participation of the Israeli government. Along with bilateral recognition, the Biden White House contemplates urging other states to do the same and permitting that Palestinian state to join the United Nations. British Foreign Secretary David Cameron says the United Kingdom will do the same to bring about "irreversible progress to a two-state solution."

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated on January 21, "I will not compromise on full Israeli security control over all the territory west of Jordan - and this is contrary to a Palestinian state." While the Palestinians, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad are driving away in that Cadillac El Dorado, the set of steak knives that will be offered to Netanyahu after this public repudiation will be "normalized" relations with Saudi Arabia.

Allegedly, Secretary of State Antony Blinken is favoring a "demilitarized" state because that worked so well in Gaza. 

In what has sort of become a metaphor for all of Joe Biden's foreign policy decisions, the Biden regime doesn't seem to know what its policy is. While Blinken's people were leaking that a policy rethinking was underway, the National Security Council was caught with its jaw hanging down.

  • A White House National Security Council spokesperson said it "has been longstanding U.S. policy that any recognition of a Palestinian state must come through direct negotiations between the parties rather than through unilateral recognition at the UN. That policy has not changed."
  • The State Department declined to comment.

There are three sticking points. First, the boundaries of this new terrorist empire have to be set. No one knows what that would look like. Second, the obvious impact of what will be an Iranian-controlled terror state bordering Israel that could have mutual defense treaties with other nations hostile to Israel and UN representation doesn't seem to have been considered. Third, everyone appears to be assuming away the high probability that Israel will refuse to accept this terror state.

If this happens, it effectively kills Trump's Abraham Accords by bringing Palestinian demands back to the center of Middle East geopolitics. It will be nearly impossible for any Arab nation to continue relations with Israel if Israel refuses to accept the strategy of rolling bilateral recognition agreements that the White House envisages.

Unless this is derailed, we have effectively abandoned our tacit alliance with Israel and handed a massive strategic victory to the country that will control the government in this new state.



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To: unclebankster

“Why would the US need permission from Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians?

Would would we need permission from the Ukrainians to negotiate with the Russians?

What am I missing?”
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Why did England need the permission of Czechoslovakia to negotiate with Germany over Czechoslovakian territory that was necessary for its security?

This is worse, because at least the Germans hadn’t already crossed the border into Czechoslovakia and murdered over 1000 people and taken a couple hundred hostage. Also, Germany didn’t have a stated policy of wiping out Czechoslovakia as a nation, and murdering all Czechoslovakian citizens who lived anywhere else in the world. This will turn out far worse than what happened in Czechoslovakia, and that was a Class A disaster of historic proportions.

Since you obviously don’t have a clue, the problem with the United States negotiating with “Palestine“ is that it is not negotiating with its own territory, it is negotiating with Israel’s territory. Nobody, and no nation, has the right to negotiate with somebody else’s property with a third-party, without the permission of the person or nation whose property is at issue. I would feel the same way if it was Reagan or Trump, negotiating in this fashion, but the fact that it is the brainless puppet Biden, doing the negotiating at the clear beast of the Jew-hating traitor, Obama, makes it infinitely worse.


61 posted on 02/01/2024 6:36:08 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

“…at the clear beast of the Jew-hating traitor, Obama,….”
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behest, not beast (even though Obama works for the Beast).


62 posted on 02/01/2024 6:39:04 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, yes. Creating yet another unresolvable problem.


63 posted on 02/01/2024 6:52:59 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

that’s downright treasonous.
why do dems love terrorists?
why would the globalists want this?


64 posted on 02/01/2024 6:55:19 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: SeekAndFind

They are F’g nuts. Joe Briben pandering yo Muslim voters in America THEY BROUGHT HERE!!!


65 posted on 02/01/2024 7:05:33 AM PST by ZULU (DUMP RONA ROMNEY MCDANIELS!!!)
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To: pangaea6

Related

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/01/bidens-senior-director-for-intelligence-programs-on-nsc-was-unrwa-official-while-it-was-aiding-hamas


66 posted on 02/01/2024 7:45:00 AM PST by combat_boots
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To: SeekAndFind; SaveFerris

These fools!

Joel 3:2

“I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.”
(KJV)

http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/10-times-that-god-has-hit-america-with-a-major-disaster-after-the-u-s-attempted-to-divide-the-land-of-israel


67 posted on 02/01/2024 8:46:47 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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The Enemy of mankind will use any willing tool in an attempt to steal what is the LORD’s alone. Spoiler alert :): The LORD always wins and uses all things for His purposes.

“Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.” ~ Deuteronomy 4:40


68 posted on 02/01/2024 8:59:28 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: Spktyr

I want that to be true.

As more and more obnoxious traffic shutdowns and anti-semitic college statements come out these will help turn old supporters away as they see how the Left is not their friend.


69 posted on 02/01/2024 9:25:13 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: SeekAndFind

WIKI

The couple lost their right to drive and had to sell their car, and their housekeeper had to resign due to the law against Jews employing Aryan women. Eventually the Klemperers were forced to put down their household cat, a tomcat named Muschel, because of a restriction as to Jews’ ownership of pets.

Klemperer was so dismayed with the spread of antisemitism, even among those who professed to be against the Nazis, that he from time to time entertained the possibility of fleeing to the US. A later diary entry—for April 10, 1940—records other problems with emigration: “Meeting with the emigration adviser of the Jewish Community, result less than zero: You really must get out—we see no possibility. American-Jewish committees support only observant Jews.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Klemperer


70 posted on 02/01/2024 11:22:45 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: frank ballenger

Look at all the East Coast colleges (and elsewhere) that are publicly seeing endowments and donations stripped away from them by Jewish alumni since Oct 7.


71 posted on 02/01/2024 11:40:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Hopeful. Good signs.


72 posted on 02/01/2024 11:51:27 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
US Considering Recognizing Palestinian State Without Negotiations With Israel

In Other News...

US Considering Recognizing Migrant Refugee Enclave Without Negotiations With TEXAS

73 posted on 02/01/2024 12:28:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Catching up” with Beijing.


74 posted on 02/01/2024 12:46:59 PM PST by Right Wing Vegan (The one most called "dangerous" by minions of the pot normalization conspiracy)
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To: Safrguns
NEW Madrid

Besides - it's just a shadow!



75 posted on 02/01/2024 1:05:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well Liberal American Jewry, you voted for this because Grump was so mean. Now what?


76 posted on 02/01/2024 1:26:01 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush; SeekAndFind
I have a serious question

If there is a Palestinian country that forest a missle at another country Israel , what will happen then? Is that a declaration of war?

A serious answer is NO.

The acting party cannot force the injured party to determine that said party is in a state of war. The state of war legally occurs when the injured party commits some official act that recognizes the injuring act as an act of war. The firing of the missile would constitute an Act of War, but only Israel could declare that Israel was in a State of War.

An example would be the American Civil War, better described as the War between the States. For various legal reasons, particularly for insurance purposes, the U.S. Supreme Court determined the precise start and end dates of the war. The start did not occur at Fort Sumter, but upon Lincoln's subsequent proclamation of a blockade, which was an international act, and which served as a declaration of war, resulting in various countries responding with declarations of neutrality.

The case is The Protector, 79 U.S. 700 (1870).

https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep079700/

The question, in the present case is, when did the rebellion begin and end? In other words, what space of time must be considered as excepted from the operation of the statute of limitations by the war of the rebellion?

[...]

It is necessary, therefore, to refer to some public act of the political departments of the government to fix the dates, and, for obvious reasons, those of the executive department which may be and in fact was, at the commencement of hostilities, obliged to act during the recess of Congress, must be taken.

The proclamation of intended blockade by the President may therefore be assumed as marking the first of these dates, and the proclamation that the war had closed as marking the second. But the war did not begin or close at the same time in all the states. There were two proclamations of intended blockade: the first of the 19th of April, 1861, embracing the States of South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas; the second of the 27th of April, 1861, embracing the States of Virginia and North Carolina; and there were two proclamations declaring that the war had closed, one issued on the 2d of April, 1866, embracing the States of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Louisiana, and Arkansas, and the other issued on the 20th of August, 1866, embracing the State of Texas.


77 posted on 02/01/2024 2:29:34 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: SeekAndFind

GOD said that He will bless those that bless Israel and CURSE those who curse Israel. He also said that IF anyone DIVIDES HIS LAND (Israel), He will (in my words and some from scripture) drag them to the Valley of Jehoshaphat (that’d be Armageddon) and there He WILL JUDGE them there. The USA is digging its own grave here with this stupid decision. GOD will have the last word. He ALWAYS DOES!!!!


78 posted on 02/01/2024 3:03:35 PM PST by RetiredArmy (The Bible speaks truth! Don't believe it, you do so at your own peril. You'd better be right!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Same kind of crap the EU is doing to Hungary. You either agree with them or they punish and break all the rules.


79 posted on 02/01/2024 3:07:11 PM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Your funeral, Brandon.


80 posted on 02/01/2024 3:37:37 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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