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Judge rules Trump committed fraud in building real estate empire
The Hill ^ | 09/26/2023 | ELLA LEE AND ZACH SCHONFELD

Posted on 09/26/2023 1:52:14 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

A New York judge on Tuesday found former President Trump liable for fraud, handing a major legal victory to New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) in her sprawling civil case over Trump’s businesses.

New York Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron granted James’s request to find Trump liable for the first of seven causes of action she has accused him of in the lawsuit.

Engoron simultaneously denied Trump’s demand to toss the entire suit without trying the case. The non-jury trial on the remaining matters is set to begin Monday, barring Trump’s separate, last-minute effort for a delay.

Engoron also granted James’s request to sanction five of Trump’s lawyers for bringing up already-dismissed arguments in court, ordering them to pay a $7,500 fine each.

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To: ridesthemiles
The issue isn’t the accuracy of the measurements. It’s a question of what is included in the building floor area, and what is excluded.

One architectural plan shows the measurements to the exterior of the original foundation wall. The title document only includes the measurements to the interior of the foundation wall. One document clearly excludes a part of the building that was once an exterior patio area but was enclosed decades ago and is now part of the building. The most idiotic one of all basically says 10 plus 10 plus 10 plus 10 equals 30 — as if the entire top floor of the building doesn’t exist.

121 posted on 09/26/2023 7:26:58 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Golden Eagle

You really think that banks don’t do their own due diligence when making loans to an owner of a property with an estimated value of $500,000,000? You really think banks are as gullible as you seem to be when posting articles from CNN, AP and The Hill?


122 posted on 09/26/2023 7:29:57 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Golden Eagle
See Post #121. I don’t worry about using the “wrong” measurements when establishing the value of the property because I have an architectural plan prepared by a licensed architect to back me up. If I ever run into any legal trouble over it, his malpractice insurance carrier will be facing a major claim.

For commercial real estate, lenders typically care less about the size of the property than the lease revenue.

And I would never criticize Obama for this nonsense, because I am totally objective to the point of being OCD about things related to legal and financial matters. I could have been a lawyer or CPA in another life.

123 posted on 09/26/2023 7:33:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Correct or correct. We have no more statues in Virginia.


124 posted on 09/26/2023 7:36:51 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Golden Eagle

When this story first hit the news, one big item that stood out to me was that Trump Tower is a condominium building. I have done quite a bit of work in condominium projects over the years, so I’ve seen all kinds of situations that you typically wouldn’t see in a conventional property. When I saw the huge discrepancy between the “reported” size of Trump’s suite and the actual size, I immediately speculated that his reported size of the suite includes: (1) outdoor patio space that isn’t included in the property title of the suite but is for the exclusive use of the suite owner, and/or (2) he’s including hallways, elevator banks and other common areas on the suite’s floor that are only accessible by the suite owner.


125 posted on 09/26/2023 7:42:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Bikkuri

Thanks. Couldn’t tell from his name, but his picture says it all.


126 posted on 09/26/2023 10:43:11 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: BobL
Seeing him definitely made me lose my appetite 🤪
127 posted on 09/27/2023 12:56:11 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Maybe we don't need to see a lifelong NYC liberal as the conservative savior?

We want Trump. We don't want you. Trump is the real deal. You're a fraud.

128 posted on 09/27/2023 1:44:47 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Yes, give us Trump! How many Men have descended from their golden mansions only to bear the slings and arrows of the rabble (Indicted Harassed Charged) - for all of us?! I can only think of a couple and President Trump hasn’t submitted yet.


129 posted on 09/27/2023 3:00:27 AM PDT by Observator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wouldn’t that be a CIVIL MATTER ?

None of the parties involved seemed to mind...

Also DOESN’T EVERYONE TRY TO MINIMIZE TAXES???


130 posted on 09/27/2023 5:26:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: TexasGator
I don’t know if Trump committed any of the cited events but fraud is a crime.

I don't know if you raped that little girl, but rape is a crime.

131 posted on 09/27/2023 5:39:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Golden Eagle
This “lifelong NYC liberal” has attracted more hatred and outrage from Democrats than every Republican in public office COMBINED in my lifetime.

That itself is very telling.

132 posted on 09/27/2023 5:40:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Bikkuri

Judge Arthur Engoron. “A face only a mother could love”?


133 posted on 09/27/2023 5:54:26 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If there was no harm, there is no foul. Basic pre-law-school law.


134 posted on 09/27/2023 7:36:21 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Apparently Alina Habba didn’t file a motion for a trial. Biiig effup on her part.


135 posted on 09/27/2023 10:19:01 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Scroll thru the comments. You will see his home is worth close to 1 billion.

A New York judge ruled that Trump inflated his property values, including Mar-a-Lago, which the judge determined was worth $18-$27 million from 2011 to 2021. To put this into perspective, neighboring homes on 0.28-0.89 acres are listed for $18-40 million. Mar-a-Lago, the 20-acre property in the middle, is worth less despite being 20 to 70 times larger.

@EricTrump
: “The real estate circles in Florida are laughing at this foolishness.”

@DonaldJTrumpJr
: “If Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million… I’ll take 10 please!!!”

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1706838593086668946?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706838593086668946%7Ctwgr%5Eb0e5198f0aa2ae9f4a8f2e0d7b80c7075793bf75%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F09%2F27%2Ftrump-fraud-case-democrat-judge-democrat-prosecutor-democrat-city%2F


136 posted on 09/27/2023 9:45:36 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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