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Judge rules Trump committed fraud in building real estate empire
The Hill ^ | 09/26/2023 | ELLA LEE AND ZACH SCHONFELD

Posted on 09/26/2023 1:52:14 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

A New York judge on Tuesday found former President Trump liable for fraud, handing a major legal victory to New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) in her sprawling civil case over Trump’s businesses.

New York Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron granted James’s request to find Trump liable for the first of seven causes of action she has accused him of in the lawsuit.

Engoron simultaneously denied Trump’s demand to toss the entire suit without trying the case. The non-jury trial on the remaining matters is set to begin Monday, barring Trump’s separate, last-minute effort for a delay.

Engoron also granted James’s request to sanction five of Trump’s lawyers for bringing up already-dismissed arguments in court, ordering them to pay a $7,500 fine each.

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To: ChicagoConservative27
What happened to 7th amendment protections?

-PJ

21 posted on 09/26/2023 2:12:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: No name given

by this standard, every real estate investor in New York and every other state needs to be sued!

Let’s start with all the liberal ones!


22 posted on 09/26/2023 2:13:50 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly, and as equities grow due to inflationary pressures it’s common place to refinance and use the capital on other projects.

A smart operator will also do the reverse to determine guesstimate value of gross capital.

They too like to know what’s in their left pocket.

Latetia is so far into herself that she hasn’t seen light nor common sense for a long time.


23 posted on 09/26/2023 2:15:14 PM PDT by himno hero (had'nff )
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To: zeestephen
From link to CNBC...

"Judge Arthur Engoron as part of that ruling cancelled the business certificates of Trump and the other defendants in the suit in Manhattan Supreme Court."

"The judge ordered that within 10 days, the defendants must recommend no more than three potential independent receivers to manage the dissolution of the corporations which the judge has canceled business certificates for."

FYI - "Supreme Court" in New York state refers to the highest court in that particular jurisdiction.

It does NOT refer to the highest appellate court in New York state.

24 posted on 09/26/2023 2:15:38 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: montag813

Then most of the real estate brokers in the world need to up for fraud charges for selling real estate that has faults. How many buildings become money pits with hidden problems, tricks to mask issues, and inflated wonders that the building is.


25 posted on 09/26/2023 2:15:59 PM PDT by Liaison (CTANSTAAFL)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And kill any hope of finding a lawyer to represent him.


26 posted on 09/26/2023 2:18:19 PM PDT by vivenne (⁹)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Ridiculous ironic that trump lived in New York for what 50 yrs and no one ever investigated him til he ran for president”

Nor was Trump considered a racist, sexist, or homophobe PRIOR to running for President. The NeverTrumpers (Ukraine War supporters) don’t seem to ever notice that little detail.


27 posted on 09/26/2023 2:18:42 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some lawsuit details:

Among the allegations were that Trump claimed his Trump Tower apartment in Manhattan — a three-story penthouse replete with gold-plated fixtures — was nearly three times its actual size and valued the property at $327 million. No apartment in New York City has ever sold for close to that amount, James said.

Trump valued Mar-a-Lago as high as $739 million — more than 10 times a more reasonable estimate of its worth. Trump’s figure for the private club and residence was based on the idea that the property could be developed for residential use, but deed terms prohibit that, James said.

Trump: “Do you know the banks were fully paid? Do you know the banks made a lot of money?” Trump testified. “Do you know I don’t believe I ever got even a default notice, and even during COVID, the banks were all paid? And yet you’re suing on behalf of banks, I guess. It’s crazy. The whole case is crazy.”

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249

Unpaid loans: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/523069-nyt-trump-had-287-million-in-debt-mostly-tied-to-chicago-project-forgiven/


28 posted on 09/26/2023 2:18:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Judge rules Trump committed fraud in building real estate empire

THE JUDGE is a DAMN FRAUD!

29 posted on 09/26/2023 2:19:24 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I hate these people.


30 posted on 09/26/2023 2:19:35 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: TexasGator

Not. A. Crime.

Do you believe insurance companies and banks are as stupid as you and wouldn’t do their own appraisals when insuring or loaning millions of dollars?


31 posted on 09/26/2023 2:22:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: KamperKen

But...but...Orange Man bad!


32 posted on 09/26/2023 2:26:08 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
They probably think that the government's assessed property value for tax purposes is the ONLY value that should be used for private deals, and that any valuation above the government's stipulated value is by definition fraud.

-PJ

33 posted on 09/26/2023 2:26:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s a two year statue limitation Virginia.


34 posted on 09/26/2023 2:28:37 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Did trump waive his right to have a jury trial?


35 posted on 09/26/2023 2:29:16 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

All lies.

Screw the NY “judge”

Sue the DA.


36 posted on 09/26/2023 2:30:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: zeestephen

Ignore the judge.


37 posted on 09/26/2023 2:31:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“A New York judge”

The Demoncrats ... I mean Democrats will stop at nothing to keep Trump out of the White House ... along with a lot of Congre$$ional RINJOs and of course the Deep State. Their motto probably is: We don’t want no steenkin Peoples’ President.


38 posted on 09/26/2023 2:34:57 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Not. A. Crime.

Do you believe insurance companies and banks are as stupid as you and wouldn’t do their own appraisals when insuring or loaning millions of dollars?”

I don’t know if Trump committed any of the cited events but fraud is a crime.

My credit union had an appraisal done on my house but they don’t work on commission.


More Details:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/letitia-james-trump-lawsuit-takeaways-what-to-know/index.html


39 posted on 09/26/2023 2:37:12 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I can say my house is worth 4 million..bank appraisers come and appraise it, I can say its worth whatever I damn well please, but its up to them to decide for sure


40 posted on 09/26/2023 2:37:20 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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