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‘Italy is a fully sovereign country’ – Germany demands Italy’s conservative government allows 1,000 migrants on NGO ships to dock in Italy
Remix News, ^ | November 6, 2022 | John Cody

Posted on 11/06/2022 7:21:19 AM PST by george76

Three NGO ships with more than 1,000 people on board are waiting to dock off the Italian coast, but Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi are firmly refusing German demands that the ships dock in Italian ports.

Rome’s foreign ministry confirmed on Thursday that it had previously sent a verbal note to Berlin asking it to accept the migrants on board the German-registered Humanity 1. The Italian ministry added that the German side had been asked for information on the people on board.

The diplomatic document, dated Oct. 23, was published on Wednesday by public television channel RAI3. In its response, the Berlin foreign ministry urged Rome to provide assistance as soon as possible to the people on board the NGO boat, including more than 100 minors.

“Rescuing people in mortal danger is the most important thing,” read a statement from German embassy urging Italy allow the boats to dock.

“If Germany believes that there is a humanitarian problem, it should take care of it, Italy cannot become the refuge of all immigrants,” said the Minister for Relations with Parliament Luca Ciriani while speaking on the “Agorà” show on the Rai3 television channel.

According to Piantedosi, European countries that flag their vessels should welcome those arriving via the NGOs that use those boats. However, he said the only way to solve the migration flow was to stop departures altogether.

Ciriani backed Piantedosi’s hard line on migration, saying, “We cannot simply be the terminal of choices that take place elsewhere. We are a serious country, Italy is a fully sovereign country.”

Ciriani also repeated Piantedosi’s position, saying flying German flags should indicate Germany’s responsibility for migrants on those ships.

“If it intends to act in international waters, then it must also take responsibility for the choices made by the ships flying its flag,” said Ciriani who added, “We cannot accept that Germany decides for us.”

As Remix News previously reported, there are numerous German NGO ships operating in the Mediterranean that rescue migrants but also serve as a draw for many migrants who believe they will be rescued if something goes wrong. The groups have also been accused of cooperating with migrant smugglers and arranging to meet up with smugglers on the open sea to transfer migrants. Many of these ships are supported with funds from German Protestant churches. However, as the German press has reported in the past, the vast majority of these migrants are not refugees, but instead economic migrants.

Italy’s stance may cause another rift within the EU. When Matteo Salvini refused to dock migrants while previously serving as interior minister, migrant numbers dramatically dropped in Italy. However, once he lost power, he was targeted by prosecutors with “kidnapping” charges for defending Italy’s borders and faced harsh prison sentences for his actions.

Italy’s government says it won’t back down

With 179 people on board, Humanity 1 is waiting some 18 kilometers outside Italian territorial waters. Also waiting to dock with 572 people on board is the Geo Barents, a vessel operated by Doctors Without Borders, and the Ocean Viking, a French vessel of the SOS Mediterranée organization, registered in Norway, is carrying more than 200 people. The vessels took on board the people in international waters between Oct. 22 and Oct. 29.

Italy continues to refuse to allow the ships to dock. Ocean Viking had already asked Spain, France, and Greece to do the same on Thursday, according to Hungarian news outlet Magyar Nemzet.

In an interview with the Corriere della Sera, Italian Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi said that with the new right-wing government, Italy would no longer accept people taken on board foreign ships at sea. He stressed that NGO boats regularly carry out their activities with minimal involvement of the authorities. He noted that 16 percent of people arriving on Italian shores are transported via NGO boats, while local authorities are required to assist the remaining 84 percent.

The interior minister had previously declared the docking of the Humanity 1 and the Ocean Viking unsafe by decree, citing national security reasons.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aliens; bloggers; deepstate; europe; eussr; fourthreich; germany; globalists; humantrafficking; italy; klaus; newworldorder; ngo; ngos; now; soros; sovereigncountry
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To: Jeff Chandler

That’s creative. Refusing to allow smuggled migrants in is called “kidnapping.”


41 posted on 11/06/2022 8:25:43 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: cranked

“The EU like one big sinking ship, everyone going down together as one collective whole.”
I normally don’t respond to your rhetoric, but you may be correct for once and I acknowledge that.


42 posted on 11/06/2022 8:26:45 AM PST by rellic
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
NGOs have become a weird form of (covert) revolutionary armies,...

Yes, they have.

43 posted on 11/06/2022 8:29:54 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

bah fongu


44 posted on 11/06/2022 8:31:12 AM PST by Jolla
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To: qaz123

Airlift a month’s worth of food and supplies to each ship, along with a map and navigation instructions to get them to Germany. At that point, any obligations Italy may have had on humanitarian grounds have been fulfilled.


45 posted on 11/06/2022 8:31:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner....even better.


46 posted on 11/06/2022 8:33:56 AM PST by qaz123
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To: george76

There they go again. Germany, decades after utter defeat goin’ and acting like they control all of Europe.... They certainly think they’re gonna be the head of any full-force EU MIC complex that arises. Meanwhile, the whole country is beset by Muslims, courtesy of Angela Merkel....


47 posted on 11/06/2022 8:35:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gay State Conservative
Northern Europe's view of the PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain) :


48 posted on 11/06/2022 8:35:13 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: DesertRhino
But you would do well to remember the lender is the slave of the borrower.

That is an economic truth.

49 posted on 11/06/2022 8:36:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: TonyM

Followed by ‘Ituscita’! (the Italian equivilant of Brexit).


50 posted on 11/06/2022 8:39:13 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (I refuse to grow up and you can't make me!)
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To: MotorCityBuck

Not really. Especially not now that the German economy is imploding. Before they accounted for 20% of the EU economy, and about 28% of the Eurozone. But they aren’t paying for things anymore and are in deep trouble.

They no longer get to issue demands. Italy is buying Russian gas, just elected a nationalist who is personally in deep conflict with EU values. Push too hard and they may walk. The German green thing and Ukraine war has destroyed their ability to wield economic power.


51 posted on 11/06/2022 8:43:27 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

I am not trying to counter anything you posted. I just want to add my opinion that Germany will most likely get through their current self-inflicted crisis just fine.

The bigger, long-term question is how will they survive their current demographic implosion, and what kind of nation will they become?

I suppose Japan might be the model in this respect.


52 posted on 11/06/2022 8:44:28 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: george76
‘Italy is a fully sovereign country’ – Germany demands Italy’s conservative government allows 1,000 migrants on NGO ships to dock in Italy

Well, I don't know how sovereign Italy is - except it's a lot more sovereign than Germany.

53 posted on 11/06/2022 8:46:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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To: Jim Noble

Germans are still Germans.


54 posted on 11/06/2022 8:47:18 AM PST by anton
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To: george76

Germany is already being plagued with high inflation, shortages of fuel and threats of a very cold winter due to lack of heating.

Just what they need, more destitute migrants to tax the system, especially the beleaguered taxpayers. This is being forced on the German people who certainly do not want this.

Stand strong Italy, hopefully the German people will get their act together before it’s too late (if it isn’t already, Merkel already accepted a million military-aged muslim men an counting).


55 posted on 11/06/2022 8:48:15 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Accurate to a degree. But the Germans are no longer industrious and hard working. They have wrecked their own economy on the altar of global warming, aggressive globalism, provoking wars, and ideology.
So all they are left with is criticizing those who want to enjoy life and not join into their retarded quests.

Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece do little more than pay lip service to global warming. They are pretty much absent from the Great Patriotic War.

The German self image is about to have to be calibrated.


56 posted on 11/06/2022 8:52:26 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
I speak, and work with Germans in Germany every day. I don't hear them complaining.
You be well advised not to tie to much of your “conservative” eggs in one basket. Especially the “stable” Italian politics.
The German economy will adjust. I trust their judgment over any Italian leader of the day anytime.
I also take the input of my Italian coworkers who want to become U.S. citizens because their county is such a ClusterF*ck, as where the Germans have no inclination to leave their country for ours.
That's a lot better that some outdated B&W movie version of history.
Take care.
57 posted on 11/06/2022 8:53:45 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: qaz123
If I were advising Meloni....let the ship dock, put the migrants on a trains and drive those trains straight to the French and German border. Dump them off with a few bucks for a cab to take them to Paris and Berlin.

Exactly.

58 posted on 11/06/2022 8:54:41 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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To: george76

Simply tell the NGO’s that that they will be immediately arrested and charged with Alien Smuggling and the vessels seized and actioned off to pay for the illegal alien’s care.

NGOs have no right to violate the law.


59 posted on 11/06/2022 9:03:59 AM PST by usurper
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To: BobL

“Except...if the Leaders are actually Globalists and are the ones actually opening the floodgates”

And who elects those leaders?

At the end of the day, the buck stops with the people. They are letting themselves be bamboozled and self guilted into their own destruction. They voting for the “leaders” who hate them.

“Pathological compassion” is a great and leading destroyer of societies.


60 posted on 11/06/2022 9:06:10 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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