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‘Italy is a fully sovereign country’ – Germany demands Italy’s conservative government allows 1,000 migrants on NGO ships to dock in Italy
Remix News, ^ | November 6, 2022 | John Cody

Posted on 11/06/2022 7:21:19 AM PST by george76

Three NGO ships with more than 1,000 people on board are waiting to dock off the Italian coast, but Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi are firmly refusing German demands that the ships dock in Italian ports.

Rome’s foreign ministry confirmed on Thursday that it had previously sent a verbal note to Berlin asking it to accept the migrants on board the German-registered Humanity 1. The Italian ministry added that the German side had been asked for information on the people on board.

The diplomatic document, dated Oct. 23, was published on Wednesday by public television channel RAI3. In its response, the Berlin foreign ministry urged Rome to provide assistance as soon as possible to the people on board the NGO boat, including more than 100 minors.

“Rescuing people in mortal danger is the most important thing,” read a statement from German embassy urging Italy allow the boats to dock.

“If Germany believes that there is a humanitarian problem, it should take care of it, Italy cannot become the refuge of all immigrants,” said the Minister for Relations with Parliament Luca Ciriani while speaking on the “Agorà” show on the Rai3 television channel.

According to Piantedosi, European countries that flag their vessels should welcome those arriving via the NGOs that use those boats. However, he said the only way to solve the migration flow was to stop departures altogether.

Ciriani backed Piantedosi’s hard line on migration, saying, “We cannot simply be the terminal of choices that take place elsewhere. We are a serious country, Italy is a fully sovereign country.”

Ciriani also repeated Piantedosi’s position, saying flying German flags should indicate Germany’s responsibility for migrants on those ships.

“If it intends to act in international waters, then it must also take responsibility for the choices made by the ships flying its flag,” said Ciriani who added, “We cannot accept that Germany decides for us.”

As Remix News previously reported, there are numerous German NGO ships operating in the Mediterranean that rescue migrants but also serve as a draw for many migrants who believe they will be rescued if something goes wrong. The groups have also been accused of cooperating with migrant smugglers and arranging to meet up with smugglers on the open sea to transfer migrants. Many of these ships are supported with funds from German Protestant churches. However, as the German press has reported in the past, the vast majority of these migrants are not refugees, but instead economic migrants.

Italy’s stance may cause another rift within the EU. When Matteo Salvini refused to dock migrants while previously serving as interior minister, migrant numbers dramatically dropped in Italy. However, once he lost power, he was targeted by prosecutors with “kidnapping” charges for defending Italy’s borders and faced harsh prison sentences for his actions.

Italy’s government says it won’t back down

With 179 people on board, Humanity 1 is waiting some 18 kilometers outside Italian territorial waters. Also waiting to dock with 572 people on board is the Geo Barents, a vessel operated by Doctors Without Borders, and the Ocean Viking, a French vessel of the SOS Mediterranée organization, registered in Norway, is carrying more than 200 people. The vessels took on board the people in international waters between Oct. 22 and Oct. 29.

Italy continues to refuse to allow the ships to dock. Ocean Viking had already asked Spain, France, and Greece to do the same on Thursday, according to Hungarian news outlet Magyar Nemzet.

In an interview with the Corriere della Sera, Italian Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi said that with the new right-wing government, Italy would no longer accept people taken on board foreign ships at sea. He stressed that NGO boats regularly carry out their activities with minimal involvement of the authorities. He noted that 16 percent of people arriving on Italian shores are transported via NGO boats, while local authorities are required to assist the remaining 84 percent.

The interior minister had previously declared the docking of the Humanity 1 and the Ocean Viking unsafe by decree, citing national security reasons.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aliens; bloggers; deepstate; europe; eussr; fourthreich; germany; globalists; humantrafficking; italy; klaus; newworldorder; ngo; ngos; now; soros; sovereigncountry
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“How do you say “bugger off” in Italian?”

Va fanculo.


21 posted on 11/06/2022 7:46:48 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: DesertRhino

They didn’t win the war, but they do run Europe. They also pay the tab.


22 posted on 11/06/2022 7:47:42 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome
23 posted on 11/06/2022 7:47:42 AM PST by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: All

Germany has bigger problems besides telling the Italians what to do with illegal aliens.


24 posted on 11/06/2022 7:49:11 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: mewzilla

Have you the US budget?


25 posted on 11/06/2022 7:50:42 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: mewzilla

No matter how much the EU might have Italy ‘by is budgetary short hairs,’ last I checked, Italy is a sovereign nation who is well within its rights to tell Germany or the EU to ‘F’ off too, yeah?

The EU like one big sinking ship, everyone going down together as one collective whole.


26 posted on 11/06/2022 7:52:25 AM PST by cranked
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To: BobL

Yep. NGO ships should be treated as pirate ships and blown out the water.

They use a country’s compassion to destroy the country.


27 posted on 11/06/2022 7:54:41 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: george76
Germany demands Italy's conservative government allows 1,000 migrants on NGO ships to dock in Italy

Germany is not in a position to “demand” anything from Italy.

28 posted on 11/06/2022 7:59:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: aquila48

“Yep. NGO ships should be treated as pirate ships and blown out the water. They use a country’s compassion to destroy the country.”

Except that shouldn’t work, as the LEADERS of those countries shouldn’t care whether their (usually uninformed) populations have compassion for the Africans, they should first protect their borders.

Except...if the Leaders are actually Globalists and are the ones actually opening the floodgates...which is the case in most of Europe at this point.


29 posted on 11/06/2022 7:59:56 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 37 degrees)
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To: george76
I could be wrong but my guess is that Italy is a net contributor to the EU treasury. If that's true they have huge power there. They could tell Germany to schtuff it up your ausfart!
30 posted on 11/06/2022 8:00:05 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: george76
Since it's German boats, with German flags running around scooping up illegals then they should certainly assume responsibility for their “catch”.
31 posted on 11/06/2022 8:01:27 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
...NGOs may be the actual mechanism by which Western Civilization is destroyed.

I've been cognizant of the fact that NGOs have been duplicitous for more than three decades.

At present I believe they are the stealth Point Groups for the GloboHomoNazi New World Order.

Note my Tagline.

32 posted on 11/06/2022 8:02:51 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: dennisw
These ships are called migrant taxi boats. They pick up the migrants when their non-seaworthy boat makes it say 20-30- miles offshore from Africa. Then taxi them to Italy’s shores. This scam has been going on for ages.

We could solve this problem by sending them all to glorious Ukraine to fight the Russians.

33 posted on 11/06/2022 8:06:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: george76

If I were advising Meloni....let the ship dock, put the migrants on a trains and drive those trains straight to the French and German border. Dump them off with a few bucks for a cab to take them to Paris and Berlin.


34 posted on 11/06/2022 8:17:44 AM PST by qaz123
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To: george76
When Matteo Salvini refused to dock migrants while previously serving as interior minister, migrant numbers dramatically dropped in Italy. However, once he lost power, he was targeted by prosecutors with “kidnapping” charges for defending Italy’s borders and faced harsh prison sentences for his actions.
35 posted on 11/06/2022 8:19:50 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: cranked

The EU like one big sinking ship, everyone going down together as one collective hole.


36 posted on 11/06/2022 8:20:58 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Navy Patriot

NGOs have become a weird form of revolutionary armies, using logistics capabilities and alliance with destructive/totalitarian forces within government bureaucracies to invade and destroy what were at one time sovereign republics.


37 posted on 11/06/2022 8:23:38 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: george76

Germany has been actively aiding and abetting the deluge of illegal migration to s. Europe.

Looks like the the Italians have had enough, lets see if Spain and Greece have a similar perspective.


38 posted on 11/06/2022 8:24:00 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: george76

With 179 people on board, Humanity 1 is waiting some 18 kilometers outside Italian territorial waters. Also waiting to dock with 572 people on board is the Geo Barents, a vessel operated by Doctors Without Borders, and the Ocean Viking, a French vessel of the SOS Mediterranée organization, registered in Norway, is carrying more than 200 people. The vessels took on board the people in international waters between Oct. 22 and Oct. 29.

Every one of these NGOs has turned smuggling illegal aliens into a money making venture supported ny the elites whose goal is to destroy sovereignty.


39 posted on 11/06/2022 8:24:30 AM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: mewzilla

Not really. Italy is running a budget of around 5% of the GDP. That compares with something like 23% for us. Their debt level is high, 130% compared to ours at 125. But you would do well to remember the lender is the slave of the borrower.
The Kraut economy is utterly imploding, especially after we attacked the Nordstream lines.

Italy could even start prepping to walk from the Euro. Italy is buying Russian gas. Germany is deeply unpopular, their manufacturing is in collapse, and they are not just trying to support themselves and are not even self sufficient in food, fuels etc.

The days of the 4th Reich giving assaholic lectures are over. And I notice no deep Italian commitment to the Lebensraum war in Ukraine.


40 posted on 11/06/2022 8:24:52 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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