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'Russia in big trouble': Putin is sent crushing Ukraine defeat warning, as his battle plan crumbles
MSN ^ | 10 15 | Paul Withers

Posted on 10/16/2022 12:20:43 AM PDT by dennisw

There is growing "discontent" - both on the battlefield and at home.

He told Express.co.uk: "Russia is in big trouble because Ukraine has been making serious advances in both the northeast and in the south. Russia does not seem to be capable and have enough troops to resist Ukraine's advances at present.

"When you combine this with the botched mobilisation, you are seeing much greater discontent there as a result of what is happening on the battlefield and also at home."

"We're also seeing some of Russia's allies seriously doubting what Russia is doing and, in some cases, distancing themselves from Russia.

Putin has a very big problem on his hands which probably won't be remedied immediately by the mobilisation he is making. Those forces won't be deployed quickly enough or in a good enough state to make a big difference."

Colonel Kemp also warned some of Putin's strongest global allies are starting to cast huge doubt over his war plan.

Most recently, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan summoned Putin for a crunch meeting in Kazakhstan as patience continues to wear thin over the Russian President's war plans in Ukraine.

Colonel Kemp said: "Putin's global allies and partners are also starting to lose confidence and faith in his war plan, and that will become a very big problem for him.

"For the first time, we have seen criticism and uncertainty from the likes of China, India and Turkey - three countries he really needs to have on side to an extent.

"We have seen dissent from the leaders of each of those counties over the past few weeks, as well as very important allies such as Kazakhstan - a former Soviet state which has always been very close to Russia - is now distancing themselves from Russia."

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To: Rockingham

The Shahed is an extreme long-range weapon, meaning that all but the tail end of a flight is pre-programmed , the final attack step being not much more complex than flying any sort of an RC airplane from Hobbyking or Banggood. That can’t really take a whole lot of training. Once one Russian has it figured, he can teach others....


41 posted on 10/16/2022 3:37:21 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Dogbert41
Russia has scared shitless the entire West

on the contrary ... we all used to be scared of Russia, it used to be seen as this unstoppable juggernaut that would roll over all of Western Europe in just a matter of weeks

BUT after the pathetic battlefield performance we've all seen over the last 8 months, Russia is now seen as a paper tiger, just a mid-level conventional force with nukes, like North Korea

the worst thing Putin did for Russia's feared reputation was this invasion ... Russia has been exposed


42 posted on 10/16/2022 3:40:31 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Nateman
Feb 23. That is when Putin started this war. That it has not ended by now is all you need to know.

Get back to US when they have been at this for 20 years and have to walk away humiliated. Goat herders say, "Pull my finger".

43 posted on 10/16/2022 4:31:52 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: dennisw

Timothy Synder is always worth listening to on Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LaEmaMAkpM


44 posted on 10/16/2022 4:51:08 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: ganeemead
Programming GPS coordinates and launching individual drones may be easy enough, yet the drones, carriers, and launch systems no doubt also require training to be correctly maintained, prepped, fueled, fused, and stationed and the explosive payloads not mishandled. Even under your scenario, my guess is that for every dozen Ivan and Boris who get trained, there will have to be at least two or three Mohammads who in the first run give the necessary training and supervision.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians and US defense suppliers already have a good handle on how to counter the two current models of Shahed and any likely successors. Low, slow, noisy, and cheaply made has them vulnerable to being shot down with standard infantry and antiaircraft weapons and misdirected with electronic countermeasures, while a number of light, palletized, truck borne US Anti UAV Defense systems called Vampire are already in Ukrainian hands and being put to use.

The result is that the Shahed has its effectiveness against defended military targets so the Russians turned to attacks on cities and civilian infrastructure. As the Ukrainians get more Vampire defense systems in place and a supply of its newer, longer range model of missiles, even Ukraine's area targets will be defended against Shaheds and similar weapons.

My guess is that the Shaheds will have lost much of their effectiveness long before Russian language manuals and a full contingent of Russian trainers are available. The US and NATO model of organizational speed and nimbleness in weapons innovation has considerable advantage over stodgier Russian and Iranian capabilities and practices.

45 posted on 10/16/2022 4:59:17 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

In any event, the written manuals must be translated from Farsi to Russian and printed to cope with the language difficulties inherent in using gear with controls captioned in a foreign language. How long will that take?

A translation app on a smart phone or a web page translation can be used.


46 posted on 10/16/2022 5:04:18 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

“Have you ever saud anything about another freeper at all?”

I have. But I have noticed that those FReepers who attack anyone who might be pro-Ukraine in this war have resorted to the worst tendencies and do so in each and every thread. Why? Why the constant hatred? And it is clear who starts it because the threads are always pretty quiet until a tiny handful of posters who instantly resort to ridiculous personal attacks show up. Why?

Do you really think that labeling pro-Ukraine posters as “Globohomos” or “Nazis” is intellectually honest?

And why are those posters so desperate for the Russians to win at all costs? I’m pro-Ukraine and yet I have no difficulty in admitting that Russia could very well win this war, or that Ukrainians have undoubtedly committed atrocities (so have the Russians) and that there are some Nazis fighting for Ukraine (and Russia). In other words, although I am definitely cheering for one side I am completely fair and honest about the war as a whole. Why can’t your side be that way as well?


47 posted on 10/16/2022 5:04:31 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Rockingham

“Do Russia and Iran have the highly secure software and gobbs of bandwidth on the battlefield to carry off such an operation? My guess is that US and NATO hackers and Ukrainian electronic countermeasures crews say otherwise.”

You are probably right. Maybe this is all done in the Ukraine or nearby Russia. We/USA do operate drones from thousands of miles away. Depending on the situation.

The most troublesome Iranian drone is huge. With the wingspan of an eagle and powered by one propeller in the rear. It is delta shaped.


48 posted on 10/16/2022 5:16:18 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Rockingham

Here is the Iranian drone I am talking about -— PHOTO at the Twitter source — https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1580929831792803840
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NOT SO SECRET WEAPON: This Iranian made Shaheed-136 loitering munition was captured nearly intact by UKR technicians. With its technology revealed, UKR air defenses are now interdicting up to 80-90% of Iran’s suicide drones. Thanks to CJ
@CasualArtyFan
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1580929831792803840
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49 posted on 10/16/2022 5:18:30 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Putin has no war plan. If there ever was a plan, it was destroyed on the long road into Kiev.

The Russian actions now are all reaction to continued defeat and serious attrition on the Ukranian battlefields.


50 posted on 10/16/2022 5:24:19 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: dennisw

What battle plan?

“We may suck, but I got nukes”

“Victor, go kill all the business men I know”


51 posted on 10/16/2022 5:27:40 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: dennisw

How much trouble was Russia in from June 22, 1941 to February 2, 1943?


52 posted on 10/16/2022 5:30:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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To: ransomnote

Putin lacks the resources for sustained bombardment.

He had to go to Iran and some say North Korea to replace dwindling or empty stores of drones, rockets and missiles. Putin can’t make them at home because he does not produce all the components required.

The only thing he may have left is artillery shells. But, it is reported that accuracy is degraded by worn out barrels on the guns.


53 posted on 10/16/2022 5:31:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Flick Lives
I can imagine how that works in practice:

Captain Boris: Fire the Shahed!

Private Ivan: Captain, I cannot! I do not have cell service here so I am not sure which red button to push. The Iranian squiggles for launch and auto-detonate look so similar to me!"

54 posted on 10/16/2022 5:33:51 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: dennisw

See my post No. 45, above. The Ukrainians are already making good use of a US air defense system against low flying drones known as Vampire, with other models coming from Europe.


55 posted on 10/16/2022 5:38:28 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: WMarshal

>>Keep up the propaganda Dennisw. We will see how this all ends.<<

It is sad how easily folks can be manipulated by the propaganda media, deep state misinformation campaign and political swamp creatures seeking to hide their illicit activities in corrupt Ukraine.

If you truly believe Russia is on the ropes, you’re in for a big ol surprise.

I’m no Russia proponent, in fact my stance is...get the hell outta there. This is NOT an American problem, it is a Euro problem. Not my circus, not my monkey.

How would Americans feel if Russia or communist China placed troops on our border in Messy-co? Well, this is how Russia feels having NATO or NATO ally right up against their borders.


56 posted on 10/16/2022 5:41:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: bert

Putin has no war plan. If there ever was a plan, it was destroyed on the long road into Kiev.


Actually, the plan was destroyed in the first hour of the invasion when the helicopter carrying the commander of the overall operation was shot down in flames.


57 posted on 10/16/2022 5:42:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: vladimir998

I think it is because of the volume of these types of propaganda posts. It’s really starting to clutter up FR so much that I have started going elsewhere more often. I wish we could get a limit of one Ukrainian propaganda post per day, with all the links encapsulated in one post. A little like FR did with Q-Anon.


58 posted on 10/16/2022 5:44:38 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: Jim Noble
How much trouble was Russia in from June 22, 1941 to February 2, 1943?

Russians were in real trouble, but US lend lease that sent them a total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $690 billion in 2020) worth of supplies, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the US saved them. Now the US is supplying Ukraine with weapons.

59 posted on 10/16/2022 5:46:55 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Because we should listen to a bunch of KGB-supporting Russophiles who have been wrong at every phase of this war to date?


60 posted on 10/16/2022 5:47:22 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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