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'Russia in big trouble': Putin is sent crushing Ukraine defeat warning, as his battle plan crumbles
MSN ^ | 10 15 | Paul Withers

Posted on 10/16/2022 12:20:43 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: Long Jon No Silver

“Don’t you think it is natural to point out Ukraine has a hardcore group of Ukrainian nationalists who are blatantly nazi.”

One or twice - but hundreds of times a day as if it actually means something? No.

“And it important given the role of Ukrainian nationalist nazis in Himmler’s SS in particular.”

Not really. More than 200,000 Russians also sided with the Nazis. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

” Nearly 250,000. Apparently only 5 Americans are recorded as volunteering for the SS.”

And how many millions of Americans would have joined the Waffen SS if the Soviet Union invaded and occupied the U.S.A. for 20 years and murdered millions of Americans by starvation, torture and execution?


121 posted on 10/16/2022 5:20:49 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Depends if they saw the Germans as liberators or not. Hopefully they would have acted in a far nobler fashion than getting down and dirty with the most notorious murderers in human history


122 posted on 10/16/2022 6:10:52 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

With the Mongols of Genghis Khan? Not too likely.


123 posted on 10/17/2022 2:50:43 AM PDT by Menes
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To: cranked

Stop supporting Fascism:

Over 40 Ways Putin’s Russia is Alarmingly Reminiscent of 1930s Nazi Germany

BY INFOAGESTRATEGY ON DECEMBER 28, 2014

Various parallels between Vladimir Putin’s Russia and Fascist Germany in the 1930s.

The Leader
Political power consolidated in hands of one authoritarian figure
One powerful leader surrounded by a core group of lesser, key cronies
Support for The Leader from industrialists / oligarchs
Leader is unwilling to cede power/leave office
Leader harbors enormous resentment towards the West
Cult of the leader
Indoctrinated youth movement devoted to The Leader personally, and is used to attack regime’s “enemies”

The Plan
Exploitation of democratic structures to establish and legitimize authoritarian rule
Manipulation of electoral process to ensure desired outcomes
Rubber-stamp parliament
Façade/trappings of democracy without actual substance, checks & balances
The Legal & Judicial Systems
Law enforcement used to suppress political dissent
Judiciary subverted to serve as regime’s politicized instrument
Punitive use of “psychiatric treatment”
Expropriation of property and trumped-up criminal charges against regime opponents / dissenters

Domestic Political Environment
Persecution and arrest of potential political opponents
Marginalization of political parties (other than the one personally linked to The Leader)
Exploitation of claimed domestic security threat to justify increase security service power
Growth in security services’ powers, authorities and role
Emigration out of the country (political dissenters “voting with their feet”, brain drain)

News Media & Propaganda
Long-term campaign to achieve absolute regime control over mainstream news media
Suppression of independent news media
Persecution (and worse) of journalists
Heavy government investment in propaganda; “Big Lie” approach & dissemination of outright fabrications
Use of propaganda to brainwash, and ensure support of, domestic population

Recurring Themes
Claimed moral superiority over decadent West
Struggles against West described in stark, existentialist terms
Xenophobic nationalism and claims of foreign “threats”, encirclement
Revisionist history
Revanchism
Irredentism

Foreign Policy
Stated need to protect ethnic, linguistic “brothers” residing abroad used to justify interference in neighbor’s internal affairs, invasion and annexation of territory
Threats and belligerence towards neighboring countries
Use of military force to achieve foreign policy objectives
Annexation of foreign territory and attempt to legitimize annexation via rigged plebiscite
Military occupation of sovereign states’ territory

Social Policy
Reproductive policies: State campaign, programs to increase fertility and birth rate
Campaign against foreign words “polluting” the language
Persecution of homosexuals

Economy
Substantial increase in military expenditures (especially compared to amount invested in health care and social services)
Unsustainable, imbalanced economic system (RUS overreliance on selling natural resources)


124 posted on 10/17/2022 3:02:06 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

Great stuff.
But I know exactly who the real neo-Nazi fascists are....

‘Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion attempts rebranding’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/ykgh-j03.html

‘British Media ‘Whitewashing’ Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: UK Editor’
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/British-Media-Whitewashing-Ukrainian-Neo-Nazis-UK-Editor-20220530-0001.html

‘Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/6/21533/Ukraines-Neo-Nazis?infinitescroll=1

‘Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zoB_6c0cag

‘Adam Schiff meets with members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion’
https://www.worldtribune.com/adam-schiff-meets-with-members-of-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/

‘Zelensky Speech With Nazi AZOV BATTALION Prompts Greek Lawmakers To WALK OUT’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tAWaNEhU8

‘Ukrainian neo-Nazis dehumanize and mock fallen Russian soldiers’
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/opinion/ukrainian-neo-nazis-dehumanize-and-mock-fallen-russian-soldiers/

Start at the 4:58 mark-
‘RT News - Sep 19 2022’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtB_r5yazsg

‘The ideology of the Banderists’
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217363.html

“Ukronazi ‘good terrorists’ – a who’s who (infographic)”
http://thesaker.is/ukronazi-good-terrorists-a-whos-who-infographic/

‘The Presence of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine’
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/europe/medea-benjamin-nicolas-js-davies-ukraine-war-russia-ukranian-neo-nazi-fascists-azov-battalion-89292/

‘Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

‘How to Mainstream Neo-Nazis: A Lesson from Ukraine’s New Government’
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/

‘Ukrainian Militia Behind Brutal Romany Attacks Getting State Funds’
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-militia-behind-brutal-romany-attacks-getting-state-funds/29290844.html

“Russia reacts to Azov neo-Nazi’s platform at prestigious US university”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564642-azov-delegation-stanford-university/


125 posted on 10/17/2022 3:03:59 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Justa

Furthermore:

Who let the Nazis escape?
Who did not clear the Nazis out of their sphere of influence?
Who protected Nazis tucked away in Scandinavia and Canada?
Who brought the Nazis to the US to build the CIA and add to the war industries?
Who looked the other way as Nazis flowed to Latin America?

If it wasn’t for the Israelis, many Nazis would have lived in the West until they died in their beds.

The Soviets’ sphere was virtually purified from Nazis. They hunted down Bandera and sent him to hell.

The US modeled itself on some of the worst principles of the Third Reich: One primary one being its obsession about/with Communism.
The US link with Muslim Brotherhood to use as proxies followed the Third Reich connection with the Mufti.

Let’s be honest here: The West claims of defeating Nazism doesn’t pass any test of the facts.


126 posted on 10/17/2022 3:04:54 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Rockingham
All available evidence indicates that nato and hohos have absolutely no way to deal with even the oldest/simplestof these new weapons. One more major raid like last night and hohos will be in the stone age.

Isn't that something? The mighty nato war machine and the gallant nazi hohos humbled and brought to grief and justice by toy airplanes...

127 posted on 10/22/2022 7:34:50 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead
The US and NATO provided enough anti-drone air defense systems with training and spares to protect the Ukrainian military. As a result, Russia (and their Iranian allies) turned to virtually undefended civilian targets.

For all the suffering that the drone attacks impose on Ukraine's civilians, it is a losing move for Russia. The attacks do not relieve pressure on Russia's front lines, but they harden Ukraine's determination to win and further blacken Russia's international reputation.

In the coming months, US and NATO air defense systems will arrive in larger numbers and be installed so as to defend Ukraine's cities and civilian infrastructure. What then?

Unable to win on the battlefield, Russian authorities seem willing to expand the daft and take other increasingly desperate measures. How much longer will Russians accept the economic and human losses and the decline of their country due to Putin's foolish and losing war?

Perhaps long enough for the Russian military to collapse and the Russian federation to break up into its constituent parts. China and the Muslims will then feast on as much as they can grab.

I am confident though that Putin and the siloviki are hedging their bets and preparing for the worst, with escape plans and assets safely abroad for themselves and their families. Will Switzerland or Cyprus be their preferred refuge?

Of course, Putin and his lickspittle followers will still blame NATO, the US, and the West for all the ills that befall Russia. Some things never change.

128 posted on 10/22/2022 11:18:37 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
HOHOs and nato don't have any coming months; Hohostan enters the stone again about five days.

Isn't it grand? The gallant nazi hohos and the mighty nato war machine humbled by toy airplanes...

129 posted on 10/22/2022 3:04:13 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead
Funny how the vaunted Russian air force is so desperate as to be proudly relying on Iranian made “toy airplanes” to attack civilian targets in Ukraine. Experts attribute that to a combination of a lack of combat worthy aircraft, a lack of experienced pilots, and fear of Ukrainian air defenses. Meanwhile, Russian civilians living near Russian air force bases have to fear flaming Sukhois on training missions falling from the sky onto their heads and homes.
130 posted on 10/22/2022 3:34:20 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ganeemead; Rockingham; SpeedyInTexas

ganeemead on 23rd October
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4100910/posts?page=129#129
“HOHOs and nato don’t have any coming months; Hohostan enters the stone again about five days.
Isn’t it grand? The gallant nazi hohos and the mighty nato war machine humbled by toy airplanes..”

You actually cheer on a defeat of the USA?

Oh and 5 days from October 23rd would have been 28th OCtober.

you were wrong — again


131 posted on 01/10/2023 9:33:29 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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