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SCIENTISTS PUZZLED BECAUSE JAMES WEBB IS SEEING STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. "THE MODELS JUST DON'T PREDICT THIS..."
The Byte ^ | 08/30/2022 | MAGGIE HARRISON

Posted on 08/30/2022 3:45:27 PM PDT by aimhigh

Over the past several weeks, NASA's ultra-powerful James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has allowed humankind some unprecedented glimpses into the farthest reaches of our universe. And unsurprisingly, some of these dazzling new observations have raised more questions than they've answered.

For a long time, for instance, scientists believed the universe's earliest, oldest galaxies to be small, slightly chaotic, and misshapen systems. But according to the Washington Post, JWST-captured imagery has revealed those galaxies to be shockingly massive, not to mention balanced and well-formed — a finding that challenges, and will likely rewrite, long-held understandings about the origins of our universe.

"The models just don't predict this," Garth Illingworth, an astronomer at the University of California at Santa Cruz, told WaPo. "How do you do this in the universe at such an early time? How do you form so many stars so quickly?"

(Excerpt) Read more at futurism.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: astronomy; galaxies; garthillingworth; haltonarp; iylm; jwst; physics; science; space; steadystate; stringtheory; webb; webbtelescope
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To: The Free Engineer

Or a tank with reflective mirror.


121 posted on 08/30/2022 6:27:18 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: aimhigh

You gave a very precise and accurate answer. God. Pure, simple truth.


122 posted on 08/30/2022 6:35:00 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: SuperLuminal

German antisemites existed long before the Nazi party.

In fact, France and Russia, too.

The French had the Dreyfuss Affair trial in 1890, and the Russian Czar’s secret police published a book called “The Protocols of the Learned Edlers of Zion”. The Protocols were written and circulated sometime around 1900, probably by agents of Nicholas’ secret police force, the Okhrana, as a means of strengthening his rule. They first appeared in print in 1903 and their content contributed to another wave of violent pogroms against Russian Jews.

In the early 1880s, and again between 1903 and 1905, several thousand Russian Jews were killed in pogroms (race riots targeting Jews and their property).

The road to German unification was a difficult one, however, and was often blocked by political obstacles and regional self-interest. Many who supported unification became frustrated by the lack of progress – which, of course, some blamed this on the region’s Jews. Anti-Semitic writers claimed the Jews feared a united Germany. They much preferred the status quo of small, bickering kingdoms.

In 1868, a German writer, Hermann Goedsche, wrote of a secret coven of rabbis who met at midnight in a Jewish cemetery in Prague to devise plans for world domination. Goedsche was a known forger and an agent of the Prussian government, and his ‘revelation’ about a Jewish plot was actually plagiarized from an earlier text.


123 posted on 08/30/2022 6:37:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: aimhigh

The Big Bang didn’t happen

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4086380/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

I’ve been saying this for decades, overwhelmingly to eyerolls & scoffs. Such is the nature of inherent confirmation bias.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4083303/posts?page=15#15

“The first billion years after the Big Bang are of intense interest to cosmologists. During this time, the hot, quantum soup that filled the Universe after it winked into existence somehow started to form everything: matter and antimatter and dark matter, stars and galaxies and dust.”

Well, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that this may be more evidence AGAINST the ‘big bang theory’: If we are the product of such an event, they can’t quantify how the matter which comprises us and our solar system ended up >13 billion light years from another result of said event.

I never believed in the sanctity of the ‘science’ and have watched with disdain as adherents demonize independent thinkers.

Like ‘climate change’ & archaeology (among others), astrophysics is just a bit too ‘religious’ for me.

Irony:

The Big Bang Theory Has Been Debunked?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-big-bang-theory-has-been-debunked/ar-AA10SJTD


124 posted on 08/30/2022 6:39:32 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: FLT-bird

AGREED


125 posted on 08/30/2022 6:41:07 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: DouglasKC

The answer to it all. A lot of what we know is really guess work .


126 posted on 08/30/2022 6:58:49 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: NoLibZone

Kind of like “man made global warming” huh?


127 posted on 08/30/2022 7:05:05 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: aimhigh
As something approaches the edge of the universe, wouldn't the combined gravity of everything else in the universe behind it start to pull it back?

If we try to look back at the furthest reaches of the universe, wouldn't light itself start to bend away from the edge and back towards the middle of the universe?

Is it even possible to see the earliest parts of the universe or is light bending to the point where we're really seeing the younger stuff again?

-PJ

128 posted on 08/30/2022 7:05:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Louis Foxwell

The only thing we (at least most of us) know for sure is that “GOD SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT”!


129 posted on 08/30/2022 7:08:55 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: TexasGator

There is science, then there is “The Science.” The Science cannot be questioned. Oh, and Dr. Anthony Fauci is its Prophet. Peace be upon His Name. If you question it, you will be memory holed.

“Democracy” is another one that doesn’t mean what it used to mean.


130 posted on 08/30/2022 7:14:47 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: RedMonqey

One theory is that each Universe is a bubble and there are more bubbles out there.

String Theory says that there are membranes of dimensions. Universes form when they occasionally collide, AND, former Universes dissolve in a burst of gamma-rays.

I recommend reading Brian Greene. Entertaining science writer, doesn’t speak way over your head.

But, it’s ALL theory. And just because something looks like it fits the theory, it doesn’t mean that it’s right or wrong.


131 posted on 08/30/2022 7:24:25 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: NoLibZone
“Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty some most unsure, some nearly sure, none absolutely certain.”

Nobel Prize physicist Richard P. Feynman

Computer models... are no different from fashion models seductive, unreliable, easily corrupted and they lead sensible people to make fools of themselves. (Yes Prime Minister (2013) Episode Scripts N/A - s01e02)

132 posted on 08/30/2022 7:25:25 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Or maybe there were many ‘big bangs’... more like firecracker elements going off simultaneously...


133 posted on 08/30/2022 7:26:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Merrick's Garland's DOJ & FBI are being renamed "Lavrentiy Beria Society' in honor of Joseph Stalin.)
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To: HandyDandy

Yeah. Speaks volumes about science these days. Jack Webb could solve anything in the 60s, and that was in 30 minutes.


134 posted on 08/30/2022 8:19:58 PM PDT by whistleduck
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To: aimhigh

The more atheists try, the dumber they look. Seriously.


135 posted on 08/30/2022 9:12:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: aimhigh

Light be... light was....
Simple really.


136 posted on 08/30/2022 9:24:21 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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To: FLT-bird

My wife and I are looking that movie up, now.

Thanks for a great description!


137 posted on 08/30/2022 9:38:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: aimhigh

Webb has shaken astrophysics .... The “Big Bang” is in question. The big haired cigar smoking smartypants have been wrong... 14 billion years is wrong. The Big Bang is wrong... Is it multiverse peeking through? The multiverse theories are insane. God level stuff. Beyond God level stuff.


138 posted on 08/30/2022 9:49:56 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: for-q-clinton
...Curious how they even know which direction would be The center of the universe?

You can look in any direction and if you could see far enougn you'd see the beginning. The theory is that the universe is a 3 dimensional bubble expanding in a 4th dimensional space. We can't see into that 4th dimension . If we could see far enough in sufficient detail you'd see your own spot but as it was billions of years ago.

139 posted on 08/30/2022 10:05:13 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ he definitely comes in as a strong second..)
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To: aimhigh

We are but on a stage.
There are supports holding the moon and planets in a diorama.
The telescope may yet photograph them.


140 posted on 08/31/2022 12:25:10 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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