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Posted on 08/30/2022 3:45:27 PM PDT by aimhigh
Over the past several weeks, NASA's ultra-powerful James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has allowed humankind some unprecedented glimpses into the farthest reaches of our universe. And unsurprisingly, some of these dazzling new observations have raised more questions than they've answered.
For a long time, for instance, scientists believed the universe's earliest, oldest galaxies to be small, slightly chaotic, and misshapen systems. But according to the Washington Post, JWST-captured imagery has revealed those galaxies to be shockingly massive, not to mention balanced and well-formed — a finding that challenges, and will likely rewrite, long-held understandings about the origins of our universe.
"The models just don't predict this," Garth Illingworth, an astronomer at the University of California at Santa Cruz, told WaPo. "How do you do this in the universe at such an early time? How do you form so many stars so quickly?"
(Excerpt) Read more at futurism.com ...
Believe me I know. I’ve built financial models for years. The math doesn’t change. Its the assumptions you build into the models. They can show anything depending on the assumptions you begin with. Its the same with climate models, with astronomical models or anything else. If your assumptions are crap, your results are going to be crap.
I haven’t worked in the field as you have, but that was my understanding to a T.
You can tweak the models to get exactly what you want.
Further, if results turn out poorly, it does not mean man caused it.
The planet was heating on its own before man could impact it,
and I’m not totally convinced he is today
I remember back when the Hubble telescope was utterly destroying the knowledge base of astronomy, there was a joke of an astronomer just finishing a print of the voluminous number of changes to astronomy, based on Hubble discoveries, on a ream of paper, who then checks his computer for *that days* discoveries.
He gives off a sigh, then dumps his printout into an extra large shredder, and starts over.
Hubble, and now Webb, are about that ridiculous.
If these galaxies are trillions of light years away wouldn't it take trillions of years for their light to get here, so what does that say about the big bang being theory since that was only billions of years ago.
Such silly questions I guess they wouldn't ask that, huh?
Hubble, and now Webb, are about that ridiculous.
Perhaps the reaction to the data they present is ridiculous.
I find them to be masterful pieces of engineering, wonderful constructs, revealing wonders never seen by human eyes.
My take away from God talking to Job is that we will never comprehend how God created the universe. (Neither creationist nor evolutionist) God is as much as saying this will be a mystery to anyone that was not there:
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you know
‘Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.’
ah, yes, the famous God of the Gaps theory...
If the Universe is infinite then it has no center.
Aren’t these the same people who think that when I eat a bean burrito and fart, the Earth gets hotter?
“ Can it be? Is The Science at least tacitly admitting to not having all of the answers? That is actually pretty surprising.”
It shouldn’t be, that’s basically the definition of scientific inquiry.
Are they implying that we cannot believe our lying eyes?
The solution is to build a much bigger LHC...
The concept of “infinity” has caused a lot of mischief—great discussion here:
https://podbay.fm/p/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal
Wait for the page to load, then find the discussion with Norman Wildberger.
It is not just the foundations of physics that are being challenged, it is mathematics as well.
Homo Sapiens is just beginning to learn that we have so much to learn....
That’s why you don’t use models as science.
Make a note of it.
Hogwash!
There were no "prominent" Nazi physicists in 1905...
In fact, there were no Nazis until the 1920s...
It is as if we don’t know what we don’t know.
Whatever science and knowledge comes to be about origins and timeframes, it will be proven wrong eventually.
Trillions of light years?
No one ever said or implied that.
I think 13-14 billion light years is as far back as they could look. Using radio telescopes, they can sense the farthest signals, which is the wavelength of very far hydrogen. After that, nothing.
Sometimes in an article on space, someone will use light years, and another will use kilometers. So light years are themselves trillions of kilometers. One light-year is equivalent to approximately a little less than ten trillion kilometers.
God
the only answer
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