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The Car Shortage Is About To Get A Whole Lot Worse
Jalopnik ^ | October 19, 2021 | Steve DaSilva

Posted on 10/20/2021 2:00:56 PM PDT by Pilsner

A critical element in everything from engines to bodies is in short supply

... Essentially, you can’t make cars without aluminum. You can’t work with aluminum without using magnesium. And as of December, you may not be able to work with magnesium much — if at all.

85% of the world’s supply comes from ... China, ... (which) just ordered 35 of its 50 production facilities to shut down. The remaining 15 have been told to scale back operations by half, leaving production drastically reduced.

(Excerpt) Read more at jalopnik.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; aluminum; bauxite; bidensfault; bidenzuela; cars; china; decarbonization; guinea; iylm; magnesium; manufacturing; shortage; shortages; vehicles
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To: dennisw

Austrailian coal was the problem. If they have unbanned it that means a lot more electric in the factories and more production. But, remember Chinese new year is coming up where nothing happens for a month.


141 posted on 10/21/2021 12:31:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: nascarnation

I’m thinking about putting at least another 50-75k on my chevy van,its a 2010 with 250k miles on it now.Im off the road so i only drive maybe a thousand miles a month if that.I did 70k a year for 30 years but finally got tired of the road.
I special ordered it with the 6.2 engine I think and a 3.56 rear end for better mileage,it used to get 20 now it gets 15 but still runs pretty fast for an old van.


142 posted on 10/21/2021 12:42:17 AM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: sport

You hit it! I’ve been saying for over ten years now the only thing the rats are good at is self-destruction and lying. They suck at everything else.


143 posted on 10/21/2021 12:49:36 AM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: rodguy911

Xi and his cabal lost their eco-minds. Part of the reason for banning Australian coal is so that China will have clear unpolluted skies for their upcoming Olympic Games. Xi wanted and still wants to present an image of China as a friendly green eco-giant making solar panels and wind turbines for the world. That China is NOT burning coal to make electricity. To negate the fact that Chinese air pollution from coal is still serious in some areas. That China is the world’s largest emitter of dreaded Co2 into the atmosphere.

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Beijing 2022 Olympics (Chinese: 北京2022), are an upcoming international winter multi-sport event scheduled to take place from 4 to 20 February 2022


144 posted on 10/21/2021 1:35:00 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: nascarnation
I read a story that said the best used deals are on small SUVs with stick shift because few people can drive them so the pool of potential buyers is small.

That story is BS. Sticks go for a premium. Only 6% of the cars sold in the United States are manual. There's so few of them that the people who really want a stick are willing to pay for them.

And people can't drive them? It took me all of about 20 minutes to learn how to drive a stick.

145 posted on 10/21/2021 1:42:58 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: dennisw
Good luck with all that. Gotta wonder who will show up for that especially since the Wuhan Games are now suspect of spreading the virus.

The last I heard China's water and air are almost both 50% polluted. They wear masks over there for the pollution, covid is a minor aggravation.

You gotta wonder if the chicoms are buying whatever land they can around the world to have a way to export the population from a dying land that they have poisioned through mass incompetence.

146 posted on 10/21/2021 1:45:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: hecticskeptic

Many XYZs didn’t own a home. They rented lux apartments. Can you imagine life with the a wife, husband, dog, and most likely by now a baby/toddler in an apartment during lockdown and working from home...? Many were going bat crazy. Cabin fever.

Many of my clients that moved during 2020, bought homes where they could have TWO offices, separate playroom area for kids, etc. They bought and scaled into the ‘new normal.’ Mistake? Only time will tell for now.

Second as already mentioned: hard assets.

Third, all these shortages are leading to something we have not experienced before and are just now starting to under the new monetary system...there is a hidden deflationary cycle afoote being masked over right now by all the inflation talk. In a deflationary cycle/spiral, hard assets is the best place to be. Land, real estate, better farmable land.

Minor shortages cause inflation, prolonged shortages of enough goods and products will trigger a deflationary spiral. China has major issues in their energy and real estate markets, news today is they just closed a big chunk of plants that refine aluminum and magnesium. Markets are screaming for this supply, China just said...No.

Controlled economic war forcing a deflation. China doing this under Trump I wasn’t worried. He’s business, he is and was the leader we need now. Under Biden, the democrats could not have found a worse candidate for the position in a crisis like this. Dementia and a VP that couldn’t even get through the primaries...useful voter idiots.

As my Aunt said before she died regarding all the investments...’it is all just paper until you cash it in.’


147 posted on 10/21/2021 1:58:11 AM PDT by EBH (Never trust the government or a politician . 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: hecticskeptic

:: Why are real estate and the stock market rolling along? ::

The promise of $3.5T in free money.


148 posted on 10/21/2021 2:37:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (LfEuTcSk GjOoe BbRiAdNeDnDON)
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To: crz

Th Road Runner was a 426 or 440 six pack.... I remember the 6 pack for other reasons 🤣🤣 but it was loud and mean.


149 posted on 10/21/2021 3:48:52 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: nascarnation

It’s a Cayman S, mid engine. Most neutral handling car I have ever driven. She’s pretty good in it already.

I actually would not want her in a 911.


150 posted on 10/21/2021 4:04:25 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Army Air Corps

To think, just ONE YEAR AGO, we were totally energy self-sufficient and looking at a bright future.

One wonders what happened....................


151 posted on 10/21/2021 5:08:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Seruzawa
"But with the US now dominated by anti-mining eco-loonies we are probably screwed."

Magnesium is not mined...it is extracted from seawater, and has been since WWII. Dow Chemical perfected the process, and as of 1995, their production facility in Freeport, TX was still up and running.

152 posted on 10/21/2021 6:52:04 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: MNJohnnie

Welcome to BIDENZUELA!>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its a lot worse than that According to Mark Levin in his book, a best seller, “ Ameican Marxism.” The left is creating a communist country. They have been working in it for 40 years and now they are closing the deal.

They plan to tax capitalism into oblivion, and make every middle calss person dependent on government. The upper class will be political, an oligargh class who rule everyone.And some of the wealthy see the writing on the wall and are supprting it.So are some large corporations suchh as Coca- Cola and NIKE.

We either beat them at the ballot box, or the shooting will begin.

They think January 6th was an insurrection? They haven’t seen ANYTHING yet. We be coming for ‘em.....soon.And they know it.

They are already howling in fear.

Biden is nothing but a sock puppet for Obama. His job is to put the sheeps clothing on the wolf of Marxism.


153 posted on 10/21/2021 7:42:05 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well well. Learn something new every day. So there is no way for the ChiComms to corner the market outside of intimidation and the cooperation of western traitors.


154 posted on 10/21/2021 8:12:33 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Pilsner

Plastic cars.


155 posted on 10/21/2021 8:17:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Hootowl99
It was $10MM capital down the tubes when the process didn't pan out as projected.

Sounds about right.

I was actually at Mag III only one year, 1978. After that, I summered at Chlorine III

At the mag cell, I was working as a contractor for S&M. Our job: Re-roofing the mag cell building. Talk about a SHITTY job! We had many people that would start in the morning and quit by lunch. I couldn't quit, because my girlfriend's Dad got me the job. He'd call me a P*ssy if I quit.

There were several steps to the job we were doing:

1) Strip the old, heavily tarred roof off (Loads of fun! Often involved using a chipping gun to cut a 2' square of tar and then use a shovel to pry it up)

2) Cut a 4' strips of the groove-fit roofing boards to gain access to support beams (Underneath the MgCl2 conveyor that was somehow electrified. It shocked you if you touched it)

3) Hook up chain falls to remove and replace the giant support beams... I guess they were 12"x 24" and 30' long?

4) Use hand tools to remove the tar from the tongue and grooves on the 4's roofing boards, then replace them. (After 8 hours of this, my face would be burned by the creosol vapors)

5) Re-apply THREE layers of roofing paper, around all the structural beams that supported the electrifed conveyor and the fence near the edge of the roof... (which, was ~ 100' in the air)

6) Mop hot tar over the entire roof

There were ~ 30 people in the crew. After a month, I'd been there longer than ANYONE except the foreman and the JLG driver that brought tar to the roof. Though I was just a 19 year old college kid making $5.50 per hour, I was directly supervising most ALL of the work. I was the only one who had been through the entire process.

After they hired a couple more college kids, at $6.50 an hour, I got pissed and demanded a raise. They sent me to company office, where I spoke with "Mr. S", from S&M.

He told me: "Son, we have a rule that NO ONE can get a raise in the first 90 days after hire.. so, I can't give you one. But, I promise you this: If you stick it out all summer, I'll hire you anytime you want to work, Christmas, Spring Break, or summer. And I'll give you a raise every time you come back!

Well... I finished. And, I came back, 3 weeks at Christmas and every summer. And, Mr. Sorrel was true to his word. The last summer I worked, in 1981, I only worked for 7 weeks, but it was a special job, tearing down the ORIGINAL styrene monomer plants from the 1940's. I worked 12-16 hour days for 7 weeks, at $14.75/hour. I made 7 grand in 7 weeks and thought I was RICH!

Ironically, I worked most of my career in the styrene industry. 32 of my 40 years. I'm pretty sure I have personally been in MORE styrene monomer plants around the world than any human being on the planet. And, I helped tear down the VERY first one. Always thought that was weird.

156 posted on 10/21/2021 11:20:30 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Well, that mag 3 work sucked for a job and more so doing it in the hot, outrageously humid gulf coast summer.

Much like you I suspect, I had a summer job every summer starting when I was 15 and all through college. I did a summer working for a roofing contractor in Las Cruces, NM when I was 16. I was too scrawny for the rooftop work so mainly ran the tar boiler trailer. Hot tar in the dessert summer. Terrific. Lol…. Lunches were damn good though. Most of the crew were Mexicans from Juarez that commuted north for the week then went home for the weekend. Absolutely terrific tacos, tamales and burritos for lunch. Maybe my most important task was to heat up the crew's lunch by putting a large hunk of tar in the pot and place the foil wrapped food on the hunk of tar in the pot. If I messed up, the food would sink in the molten tar and just get mopped on the roof later. Also, I learned to cuss in Spanish.

157 posted on 10/21/2021 12:06:25 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Tijeras_Slim

There are other things too, shafts for golf clubs and bicycle frames as well.

You can weld it and its corrosion resistant. Rio Tinto is starting to mine Scandium in Canada. Users want to see more than one source before they commit to switching to different metal alloy.


158 posted on 10/21/2021 4:40:33 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Hootowl99

Lol. I ran the tar pot for a few days. The guy that usually ran it was late to work three days in a row, so our A-hole foreman fired him. I happened to be walking by… the foreman looked at me and said, “Do you know how to run the tar pot?” Of course, I said, “Yes sir!”

I didn’t know crapola about running a tar pot except, I knew the guy who ran it got to stay on the ground. Mostly, sitting in the shade, waiting on buckets to be filled and put on the jig lift. The old guy than ran the jig lift wad really nice. I loved him. He showed me how to run it, and how to hack open the tar buckets to put em in.

One time, while I was heating it up, i might have dozed off for a sec. It got REALLY hot. I thought, if I opened the lid, it would cool off. The older guy just about jumped out of his skin! He said, if I opened it, it would catch fire. That scared me a little. But, spending my days on the ground, sitting on a bucket, leaning against a wall beat the hell out of stripping tar on the roof.

Unfortunately, after a few days, the foreman realized that I was the only one on the roof who actually WORKED, and knew what to do. So, my “Tar Pot Vacation” didn’t last long.

There was so much heat coming off those mag furnaces, rain lines would approach us… we would pray for rain. If we rained out, we went to drink beer and play pool. But invariably, the heat would SPLIT the squall line. The rain would go right around us. :-(


159 posted on 10/21/2021 6:57:57 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: hecticskeptic
Real estate and stock market: BlackRock
Great podcast/ video by Michael O’Fallon at Sovereign Nations
https://youtu.be/CjQ5TdUVvN0

The Biden Embargo

https://youtu.be/3W1moJBxRKI

Did you realize Biden's policies have created a purposeful embargo of our country? What president embargoes his own country? A marxist, globalist technocratic psychopath, thats what kind. I’m learning a lot from that channel.

160 posted on 10/22/2021 6:04:15 PM PDT by boxlunch (10th Amendmt: nullification or Texit? PS We're in a hot war: globalists, CCP, media, Dems, RINOs)
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