Posted on 03/04/2021 3:30:13 AM PST by Kaslin
There is nothing that would make the left happier than for the GOP to leave the votes of a huge portion of the gay community on the table, but that’s not going to happen. See, the Republican base looked around, saw it better stop being so finicky about allies, and it changed. We’re not going to win by subtraction. We’re going to win by addition. Okay, we can make an exception and subtract aspiring MSNBC meat puppet Liz Cheney. She’s terrible.
But there are some people who see a lane for personal prominence they can’t otherwise earn through refighting battles that we called a truce on years ago. Well, we’re not kicking out gay Republicans for being gay. We will kick gays out for being Fredocons who collaborate with the enemy. We’ll kick anyone out for being a Fredocon who collaborates with the enemy. If you are loyal, you are welcome.
Our goal must be, at a minimum, to hold 50 percent + one of the American voting population. In a two-party system, it’s unlikely to get a lot more for any length of time. If you get 55 percent it’s a landslide, but that’s the nature of the beast. Arbitrarily excluding groups is therefore ridiculous, and the silliness starts with identifying people by groups. Are all gay people the same? No, some are conservative, some liberal, and some don’t care at all about politics. The same with trans people. If you’re trans and a conservative, you’re welcome in the GOP. If you are trans and support the whole erasure of womanhood agenda, we are probably not the party for you. This is also true if you are cisgender and support the whole erasure of the womanhood agenda. And it is also true if you use terms like “cisgender” unironically.
The GOP is always going to split on these social issues. It’s the party where the people who still oppose gay marriage will go, but that’s not to say it can’t also have people who do support gay marriage. In fact, the main response to the gay marriage issue for the GOP base in 2021 is to put it at about #9,001 on the priority list. We have a desiccated old weirdo in the White House drooling as he watches the damn commies run rampant wrecking everything good about America and selling us out to the Chi Coms, and the last thing we are interested in is if Ted Cruz attends Jim and John’s destination wedding in Cancun.
Life is about choices. Strategy requires priorities. And, as Mick Jagger said, you can’t always get what you want.
If our priority is defeating the full-frontal assault on every aspect of American life, we are going to need to go to battle stations with all hands on deck, and not on some Bulwark cruise ship either.
In other words, we can disagree about some issues but work together on what we agree about most. That’s how coalitions work. That’s not some brilliant insight either – it’s Politics 101.
I hate to bring up Ric Grenell here because the least interesting thing about him is that he is gay, but he represents the choice to win that conservatives are making. I was on an expressly religious show a bit ago with very conservative Christian folks – I had to watch my mouth – and when Ric’s name came up, they cheered. They adore him. A few years ago, that might not have happened, but the fanatical support for him among people whose stereotypes say they must reject him for his sexuality – Ric is particularly beloved by gruff and grizzled military vets – would blow liberal minds if they ever bothered studying their opponents. It’s no surprise to us, though. Ric is hardcore, conservative woke, and a terrific communicator who takes no guff. That’s why the base digs him. That’s why I think he will be president someday.
There have been some ankle-biting attacks on him recently though from within the right – the idea of Ric Grenell as any kind of progressive is literally too stupid to express without laughing – and it’s easy to see why. You can sometimes distinguish yourself through opposition when you can’t distinguish yourself through actual achievement. It’s a cynical flex dressed up in faux moral guardian garb, and besides being counterproductive (except for the people doing it) it’s tiresome and boring. But there’s going to be an element of the GOP that’s going to respond, not a majority or even a significant minority, but within our boutique culture, we have seen that people can grift effectively within niches. That’s what this is – if you get a five percent fan base among 50 percent of voters, that 2.5 percent is still a lot of people in terms of absolute numbers even if that bunch is not particularly important in the big picture.
The GOP did very well in the last election in terms of embracing true diversity. The kind of diversity that we need is not the libs’ ridiculous box-checking that morphs individuals into categories. The diversity we need is the ability to welcome and work with everyone who shares our basic American values of patriotism, freedom, the defense of family and faith, and the Bill of Rights. That does not mean lockstep agreement on every detail – after all, we are not Democrats – but it does require an understanding that a >50 percent + one coalition requires us to work with people we sometimes do not see exactly eye-to-eye with. We need to accept an 85 percent ally – call it “the Susan Collins Corollary.”
In 2012, Mitt Romney, to his everlasting shame, kicked Ric Grenell off his campaign because Ric is gay. Mitt lost – and this was yet another example of the kind of incompetence, spinelessness, and weakness that ensured he failed. But when we don’t pull that kind of crap, we win. Look at the results in 2020. We nearly took back the House, and if you look at the people who got elected, they did not look like a Romney family reunion.
What’s impressive is not, “Oh goody, we got one of these and one of those and aren’t we woke,” but the fact that we effectively leveraged the talents of every kind of person without arbitrarily denying ourselves the talents of anyone. When you exclude based on superficial factors, you’re not just being unAmerican and obnoxious. You’re depriving yourself of combat power for your campaign.
We need to, and will, reject the haters and the cynical dividers. That’s not to say that we must demand lockstep agreement on every issue, including some of the most emotional ones. We need to be a party that has conservative gay married men and conservative people who don’t believe in gay marriage, a party where we can agree to disagree in order to unite to fight for bigger priorities. When someone demands we purge the gays, dissent. And when someone says we must purge the traditional marriage folks, dissent.
Don’t give in to the grifters. Don’t make the Dems smile. We need everyone for the big fight. And the big fight is here.
I doubt that is the reason the the former Massachusetts governor fired Grenell. How did he get on his campaign in the first place?
We have enough mentally ill people in the GOP we don’t need to invite faggots (2% of the population) who really never vote conservative anyways while distancing Christians from the party.
It is a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance so no, I will never just accept them for any reason.
Than why did he kick him off?
I don't know, but does that make any sense to you? Was Romney some kind of social conservative? Not even close. His campaign was supposed to be gay friendly.
And did Grenell decide he was gay after he was already on the Romney campaign? If he was invited to join in the first place, then why would that be the reason he left?
You’re a sinner too. Just wanted to remind you.
“Notably, the generational group that has the highest percentage of people who identify as LGBT is the youngest — Generation Z (born 1997 to 2002) — with 15.9%. That compares to 9.1% of millennials (born 1981 to 1996), 3.8% of Generation X (born 1965 to 1980), 2% of baby boomers (born 1946 to 1964) and 1.3% of traditionalists (born before 1946).”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-identify-lgbt-poll/story?id=76097305
“I hate to bring up Ric Grenell here because the least interesting thing about him is that he is gay, but he represents the choice to win that conservatives are making.”
Ok, one exception (apparently), although Tribalism seems to be the rule with people, so don’t be surprised if Grenell comes out for bestiality or ‘man-boy love’, when the Left moves on to those issues. If he doesn’t, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
But the other 95% of gays working high up in the Republican Party became the “Lincoln Project” (a name not chosen by accident, by the way) and not only spent every waking moment trying to take out Trump, they also went after other Republicans - some of which hated Trump. Again, those were REPUBLICAN LEADERS just a few years ago, who Republican candidates now had to fight off.
So no thanks, we don’t need gays (or for that matter cross-dressers or pedophiles) in the GOP or any new party’s leadership - been there, done that, and it does not work out well for conservatives.
Yea, lets worry about the minority gay community inclusion and votes not the 80 MILLION+ that were flushed down the toilet by the cut throat traitor cowards in the GOP. They never learn their lesson because most are compromised and dirty with the rats
“Notably, the generational group that has the highest percentage of people who identify as LGBT is the youngest — Generation Z (born 1997 to 2002) — with 15.9%”
I’m not sure that I’d base policy on what ABC News says, since they twice predicted that Trump would be blown out in a landslide. In this case, I really wonder just how ‘gay’ they are and how much of their answer is meant to show that they instead ‘support’ the gays because it’s the ‘cultural thing’ to do these days.
God passes judgement on adultery, which is sex outside of marriage — defined by God as between a man and a woman.
Jesus upheld this concept when confronted by the adulterous woman about to be stoned. He expected her to uphold the commandment after He showed her mercy. Anyone who overtly tosses the commandment is worthy of the punishment ascribed.
Just wanted to remind you.
Already has.
At the same time, I don't want them to "waive it in my face" (wish I could come with a better expression) and demand the public to celebrate their sexual preferences. I don't and I won't and often that's where I part company with the gay people who I have known.
Thee, fixed it
Welcoming gays will mean Republicans will be pressured to adopt some aspects of the LGBT agenda. This will disaffect more Christians than it gains LGBTs, and is thus a bad trade.
I would much rather we spend more time figuring out how to get more Asians.
Asians can be gay also.
Get the log out of your eye. Read Kurt’s article because you’ve obviously missed the point. While you sit in front of your keyboard and type out your sanctimony I’m going to tell you something.
Our son is gay. I knew this in my heart long before he would ever admit to us even after I would ask him. When he finally told us, he admitted also that he was afraid to tell us thinking that we would not accept him as ours anymore. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our kids were raised with unconditional love.
That being said, this amazing man who is single and childless is fighting on the front lines everyday against the woke culture forcing critical race theory on our children in our schools. He attends zoom meetings and schools board meeting and writes letters to fight against this scourge.
Yes, he is Conservative. He is exceedingly pro 2nd amendment. He took his 64 year old momma by the hand to teach her to shoot and get her concealed carry. And he is the kid who graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, putting himself through college with a bachelor degree and master’s degree.
He is the most kindest and compassionate person I know.
He is NOT less in God’s eyes. He is more.
And there are thousands out there just like him.
You have to subtract the McConnells before you can add in more normals.
If they kept it behind closed doors we wouldn’t have fag “marriage” and trannies reading books to kids at public libraries today. If a Homo wants to vote for a republican that’s fine with me but I will never vote for a gay politician nor will I ever support any of their disgusting behaviors.
Ok, then we’ll skip the gay Asians too. And any Thai “lady boys”.
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