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The GOP Is Not Going to Divide Over Gay Republicans
Townhall.com ^ | March 4, 2021 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 03/04/2021 3:30:13 AM PST by Kaslin

There is nothing that would make the left happier than for the GOP to leave the votes of a huge portion of the gay community on the table, but that’s not going to happen. See, the Republican base looked around, saw it better stop being so finicky about allies, and it changed. We’re not going to win by subtraction. We’re going to win by addition. Okay, we can make an exception and subtract aspiring MSNBC meat puppet Liz Cheney. She’s terrible.

But there are some people who see a lane for personal prominence they can’t otherwise earn through refighting battles that we called a truce on years ago. Well, we’re not kicking out gay Republicans for being gay. We will kick gays out for being Fredocons who collaborate with the enemy. We’ll kick anyone out for being a Fredocon who collaborates with the enemy. If you are loyal, you are welcome.

Our goal must be, at a minimum, to hold 50 percent + one of the American voting population. In a two-party system, it’s unlikely to get a lot more for any length of time. If you get 55 percent it’s a landslide, but that’s the nature of the beast. Arbitrarily excluding groups is therefore ridiculous, and the silliness starts with identifying people by groups. Are all gay people the same? No, some are conservative, some liberal, and some don’t care at all about politics. The same with trans people. If you’re trans and a conservative, you’re welcome in the GOP. If you are trans and support the whole erasure of womanhood agenda, we are probably not the party for you. This is also true if you are cisgender and support the whole erasure of the womanhood agenda. And it is also true if you use terms like “cisgender” unironically.

The GOP is always going to split on these social issues. It’s the party where the people who still oppose gay marriage will go, but that’s not to say it can’t also have people who do support gay marriage. In fact, the main response to the gay marriage issue for the GOP base in 2021 is to put it at about #9,001 on the priority list. We have a desiccated old weirdo in the White House drooling as he watches the damn commies run rampant wrecking everything good about America and selling us out to the Chi Coms, and the last thing we are interested in is if Ted Cruz attends Jim and John’s destination wedding in Cancun.

Life is about choices. Strategy requires priorities. And, as Mick Jagger said, you can’t always get what you want.

If our priority is defeating the full-frontal assault on every aspect of American life, we are going to need to go to battle stations with all hands on deck, and not on some Bulwark cruise ship either.

In other words, we can disagree about some issues but work together on what we agree about most. That’s how coalitions work. That’s not some brilliant insight either – it’s Politics 101.

I hate to bring up Ric Grenell here because the least interesting thing about him is that he is gay, but he represents the choice to win that conservatives are making. I was on an expressly religious show a bit ago with very conservative Christian folks – I had to watch my mouth – and when Ric’s name came up, they cheered. They adore him. A few years ago, that might not have happened, but the fanatical support for him among people whose stereotypes say they must reject him for his sexuality – Ric is particularly beloved by gruff and grizzled military vets – would blow liberal minds if they ever bothered studying their opponents. It’s no surprise to us, though. Ric is hardcore, conservative woke, and a terrific communicator who takes no guff. That’s why the base digs him. That’s why I think he will be president someday.

There have been some ankle-biting attacks on him recently though from within the right – the idea of Ric Grenell as any kind of progressive is literally too stupid to express without laughing – and it’s easy to see why. You can sometimes distinguish yourself through opposition when you can’t distinguish yourself through actual achievement. It’s a cynical flex dressed up in faux moral guardian garb, and besides being counterproductive (except for the people doing it) it’s tiresome and boring. But there’s going to be an element of the GOP that’s going to respond, not a majority or even a significant minority, but within our boutique culture, we have seen that people can grift effectively within niches. That’s what this is – if you get a five percent fan base among 50 percent of voters, that 2.5 percent is still a lot of people in terms of absolute numbers even if that bunch is not particularly important in the big picture.

The GOP did very well in the last election in terms of embracing true diversity. The kind of diversity that we need is not the libs’ ridiculous box-checking that morphs individuals into categories. The diversity we need is the ability to welcome and work with everyone who shares our basic American values of patriotism, freedom, the defense of family and faith, and the Bill of Rights. That does not mean lockstep agreement on every detail – after all, we are not Democrats – but it does require an understanding that a >50 percent + one coalition requires us to work with people we sometimes do not see exactly eye-to-eye with. We need to accept an 85 percent ally – call it “the Susan Collins Corollary.”

In 2012, Mitt Romney, to his everlasting shame, kicked Ric Grenell off his campaign because Ric is gay. Mitt lost – and this was yet another example of the kind of incompetence, spinelessness, and weakness that ensured he failed. But when we don’t pull that kind of crap, we win. Look at the results in 2020. We nearly took back the House, and if you look at the people who got elected, they did not look like a Romney family reunion.

What’s impressive is not, “Oh goody, we got one of these and one of those and aren’t we woke,” but the fact that we effectively leveraged the talents of every kind of person without arbitrarily denying ourselves the talents of anyone. When you exclude based on superficial factors, you’re not just being unAmerican and obnoxious. You’re depriving yourself of combat power for your campaign.

We need to, and will, reject the haters and the cynical dividers. That’s not to say that we must demand lockstep agreement on every issue, including some of the most emotional ones. We need to be a party that has conservative gay married men and conservative people who don’t believe in gay marriage, a party where we can agree to disagree in order to unite to fight for bigger priorities. When someone demands we purge the gays, dissent. And when someone says we must purge the traditional marriage folks, dissent.

Don’t give in to the grifters. Don’t make the Dems smile. We need everyone for the big fight. And the big fight is here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; presidenttrump; ricgrenell
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To: arbee4bush

I will accept your son as a fellow conservative.

I will not, however, promote any aspect of the LGBT agenda as a condition of his allegiance.


21 posted on 03/04/2021 4:26:19 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Kevmo

Most people who sin repeat the sin. This includes me and you. Now I know what you’re saying and it’s true that the vast majority of gays don’t think they’re sinning at all. They repeat the sin, literally ad nauseam. But sometimes someone says, “there goes a sinner”. And sometimes you know that they are saying is, “there goes a sinner, unlike me”.


22 posted on 03/04/2021 4:40:16 AM PST by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: Kaslin

No such thing as a gay republican jusy gay democrats not happy with the communist take over of the left.


23 posted on 03/04/2021 4:42:24 AM PST by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: SauronOfMordor
"I will accept your son as a fellow conservative. I will not, however, promote any aspect of the LGBT agenda as a condition of his allegiance."

Just so. And he feels the same way. He and and many like him do not agree or accept the "gay agenda". He considers himself a patriotic American who loves his country and family and will fight to keep her safe from communism. Have you heard of Brandon Straka? Look him up and see how he is leading a huge movement to educate liberals and democrats away from their clutches to turn them to conservatism. He was arrested a few weeks ago for being at the capital "kerfluffle". That gay man walks the walk. Do not discount anyone you don't 100% agree with. If they love our country, revere our Constitution as written and are willing to fight for these principles, I say welcome ALL with open arms. We need numbers to put down this evil takeover.
24 posted on 03/04/2021 4:44:00 AM PST by arbee4bush (No, I'm not a bush bot. I had a weak moment back in 2004 when I signed up to FR)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Re #13:
You’re correct. It used to be that gays wanted tolerance. Now often they want ADULATION and if you don’t give them that, you’re a “hater”!


25 posted on 03/04/2021 4:44:22 AM PST by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: escapefromboston
If they kept it behind closed doors we wouldn’t have fag “marriage” and trannies reading books to kids at public libraries today. If a Homo wants to vote for a republican that’s fine with me but I will never vote for a gay politician nor will I ever support any of their disgusting behaviors.

Gee, nobody is asking you to support their behaviors. Just leave them alone- that's all. Trannies reading to kids, well that falls in the waving it in your face so, yeah, I oppose that as well. There is no reason to use children to make a political point and so it should be strongly condemned and opposed.

As for politicians, as long as the person supports my political beliefs and, assuming the opponent does not, I will gladly vote for the person I agree with no matter what he/she does behind closed doors.

26 posted on 03/04/2021 4:45:11 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: Kaslin

Rick Grennel is running for Governor of California


27 posted on 03/04/2021 4:47:51 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Kaslin

“there are some people who see a lane for personal prominence they can’t otherwise earn through refighting battles that we called a truce on years ago.”

Which people, and in what way are they refighting those battles?


28 posted on 03/04/2021 4:55:22 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: escapefromboston

Marital relations outside of marriage is against the 10 Commandments, regardless of the sex of the partners. Divorce is also a one-way ticket to hell, and I would submit to you that the attendant destruction to children and thus society is unfathomable. Will you also never accept straights who fornicate or divorced folks for any reason, or are you arbitrary in which sin repels you?


29 posted on 03/04/2021 4:58:13 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: escapefromboston

President Trump sold LGBT campaign items (shirts, hats, flags, etc.).

So we need to dump Trump now?


30 posted on 03/04/2021 5:05:05 AM PST by Spirit of Liberty (Jesus said 'I am the Light of the world'. ~ John 8:12)
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To: Artemis Webb
You’re a sinner too. Just wanted to remind you.

Should the GOP also embrace those who support, enable or engage in: pedophilia, pologamy, incest, beastiality, sadism, masochism?

31 posted on 03/04/2021 5:09:59 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Kaslin
The GOP Is Not Going to Divide Over Gay Republicans

Butt will this keep them from coming together?

32 posted on 03/04/2021 5:16:12 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Kaslin

It will drive true conservatives away from the GOP so they are not really gaining anything by compromising godliness.


33 posted on 03/04/2021 5:25:51 AM PST by Oneanddone ( )
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To: Kaslin

There is a difference between those whose goal is to destroy the family, and those who wish to be left alone in their predelictions.


34 posted on 03/04/2021 5:25:52 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (American gun owners number more than the top 10 armies combined. What's Biden's enforcement plan?)
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To: BobL

The group of gay Republicans is called Log Cabin Republicans.
Lincoln Project are grifters, and vile never- Trumpers that appear on CNN all the time. Their co-founders included the lovely George Conway, John Weaver, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt. They pocketed millions of donations and are under investigation.
Two different groups.


35 posted on 03/04/2021 5:26:11 AM PST by Riley85
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To: Kaslin

Great article... My brother in law (Mrs. D brother) is gay. Who cares who they love. God made all people - including gays. HE made them and HE didn’t make mistakes...


36 posted on 03/04/2021 5:26:58 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Rest In Peace, Rush H. Limbaugh III. You are missed already...)
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To: Sir_Humphrey; Artemis Webb; ronnie raygun; arbee4bush
This image emerged after the Orlando club massacre.

I'll be blunt...I'd willingly have a gay gun owner who supports the advancement of freedom and MAGA at my barbecue before Willard, any McCain, William Kristol, the Bushes, Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, Murkowsky, Susan Collins, or McConnell.

I'll be even more blunt and to the point of Col Schlichter...forgetting about fraud, Biden's margin where it mattered (in GA, WI, and AZ) was 0.367% of those States' vote totals, or 42,918 votes. If just half of those votes plus one went for Trump, we'd be in a different WH situation.

37 posted on 03/04/2021 5:28:32 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: BobL

It’s a Gallup poll.

And you are sadly out of touch if you don’t see the results as consistent with the reality on the ground in the US.


38 posted on 03/04/2021 5:29:35 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Spirit of Liberty

I didn’t support everything Trump did and this was one of them.


39 posted on 03/04/2021 5:33:16 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange )
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To: escapefromboston
Gays don't vote Conservative? Sorry, but you are wrong! Gays I know knows that liberalism do not help GAYS. Unless you know gay people personally, and when you wrote faggots, I know you wouldn't want to know anyone - and if you kid turned out gay, you would kick him out, please shut up.

I know gays, most are great, some aren't, just like Conservatives, some are great, some aren't.

40 posted on 03/04/2021 5:34:13 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Rest In Peace, Rush H. Limbaugh III. You are missed already...)
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