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Alternatives to GOP: what are the options (with a view towards election success by 2024)?
original to Free Republic | Jan 17, 2021 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 01/17/2021 9:02:35 AM PST by Peter ODonnell

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To: for-q-clinton

The low-hanging fruit is the Congressional races in 2022, primary out every single incumbent, even those who appeared to support Trump, because they are all suspect, let God sort it out. And replace them with MAGA candidates, and do not split the vote. This is where Trump can be effective, if he puts a team together, goes through each Congressional District and endorses one candidate, and one candidate only with the official MAGA Seal of Approval.


21 posted on 01/17/2021 9:15:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Peter ODonnell

How about just a resistance party? We can call it the “Patriot Party”.


22 posted on 01/17/2021 9:16:00 AM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: Peter ODonnell
For good or ill, a two party system is the norm in most modern democracies because it offers the greatest political efficiency. When one of the two major parties falters, it may seem to open up political space to a new party, but that is rarely the case due to the great difficulty in forming a new party and the ability of the incumbent parties to adapt their program and message to compete with any new party that threatens to become effective.

In sum, unless fully embraced and led by Trump, any effort at a new conservative political party would be a nonstarter. Even then, if Trump led the new party effort, it would still be a hard sell unlikely to prevail. The end result would almost certainly be a defeat for conservatives like the election of Wilson in 1912 due to the Republican party splitting between Taft and Roosevelt.

23 posted on 01/17/2021 9:16:30 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Peter ODonnell

Not a thing. Done.


24 posted on 01/17/2021 9:16:37 AM PST by madison10 (Democracy dies in darkness.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Agreed I would just register independent...don’t ever stop voting but considering the power brokers in DC don’t want anything to do with Trump and more importantly Trumps voters let them wonder why nobody is volunteering for their door knock campaigns or GOTV efforts


25 posted on 01/17/2021 9:16:52 AM PST by Lod881019
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To: Zhang Fei
The thing about such a comeback is that it’s so rare, it would be another superlative to add to his record - a real feather in his cap.

I haven't heard anyone compare such an election to the 1912 three-way with Teddy Roosevelt attempting to return to the Presidency after the then-deep-stater Taft took over. Which probably means it's been written about numerous times in the last week or so :-)

26 posted on 01/17/2021 9:17:52 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Rockingham

It’s hard to imagine that a new party would get the kind of majority in that it wouldn’t ultimately have to form a coalition with one of the other parties.

Which essentially is what we already have within the GOP itself.

The idea is to make the Conservatives the dominant faction of the GOP.


27 posted on 01/17/2021 9:18:04 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Peter ODonnell

tl;dr

I will say this though. Political Parties are a thing of the past. The Uniparty is what matters.


28 posted on 01/17/2021 9:19:19 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: Peter ODonnell
Seventy million people voted for Trump and you think we need a new party?

I don’t think so.

What we need is new media that is not biased against us.

We must also accept that the foolish people will sometimes get their way. Reagan followed Carter’s disastrous economic policies. We must endure similar nonsense for the next four years. Things need to get bad enough that your average liberal gives up on trying to solve other people’s problems. His own problems must dominate his every waking hour and give him nightmares too.

29 posted on 01/17/2021 9:20:19 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Peter ODonnell

The only realistic alternative to the GOP is the democrat party. And the answer is no, I don’t plan to join them.


30 posted on 01/17/2021 9:20:31 AM PST by theoilpainter (but, )
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To: Peter ODonnell

Of course, add DTW to that list of cities with predictable levels of fraud. No doubt also LAX, NYC, SFO, SEA, PDX, HOU, New Orleans, the list goes on but their relevance to the outcome varies.


31 posted on 01/17/2021 9:20:39 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Pray for health, economic recovery, and justice.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

There are 10 places to start.
Also do whatever you can to divide your opponent.

But whatever you do, don’t mention the words “by any means necessary”.


32 posted on 01/17/2021 9:23:40 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Peter ODonnell

“””Alternatives to GOP: what are the options?”””


You ask a question that has few options, if any.

The GOP only seems to gain power when the Democrats overstep the bounds of political normality.
a. Reagan wins when Jimmy Carter is shown to be an incompetent leader.
b. GOP wins the House in 1994 for the first time in 50 years when Clinton pushes socialized medicine.
c. GOP wins House and Senate in 2010 when Obamacare is passed.
d. GOP could well win in 2022 and 2024 as it is pretty obvious that the Democrats will push the political boundaries beginning on January 21, 2021.

When the GOP is in power they rarely push any new political boundaries. That is until Trump became President and he created the America First policy or the fake news policy.

So without a person like Trump to lead the future, how can we change the minds of 80 million GOP voters where far too many of them have been trained to not expect any radical changes by prior GOP regimes.

My two cents.


33 posted on 01/17/2021 9:23:44 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Peter ODonnell

Sure, you could get a large number of voters, but what good does that do considering what happened on and after November 3rd, 2020???

Voters made absolutely no difference...

Even if you get voters, you still have to have candidates...By and large, the republican party has very few candidates worth voting for as shown this year...


34 posted on 01/17/2021 9:24:46 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: CodeToad

Always remember the 3 boxes. The soap box. The ballot box. The ammo box.

At this point, the third box is our only option.

Social media has taken away the soap box. Our government took away our ballot box. Let’s pray they don’t get our ammo box.


35 posted on 01/17/2021 9:25:26 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: Zhang Fei
I think you’re grasping at straws there. Here’s the simple dilemma the GOP faces:

1. Trump was very much an anomaly. He was almost certainly the only GOP contender who would have won in 2016.

2. Trump attracted the support of a large cohort of minorities, independents and even many Democrats. Very few of these people are going to come out and vote for Republicans in 2022 — or at any time in the next 50 years.

3. For all his bluster and his combative personality, Trump has gone out of his way to avoid contentious battles within the GOP in recent years. The last thing he ever wants to do is support a loser, so he’s never going to out on a limb to push MAGA challengers to run against RINO incumbents unless it’s a heavily Republican state or district (Lizard Cheney is an ideal target for him). He would rather support a RINO who wins than a “Deplorable” who loses.

36 posted on 01/17/2021 9:26:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Zhang Fei

I have often compared Trump to Churchill, in that like Trump, Churchill was really not well-liked by other politicians, even within his own party.

Let’s look at the 1945 election when Labour whupped the Tories and Clement Atlee took Churchills place, remember in Britain you don’t vote direct for the PM, it’s based on representation in Parliament.

Many ask, why did Churchill lose, after what he did during the war? Several reasons, First of all, Labour did a better job of getting out the message of their post-war vision for Britain, which was basically Socialism. But this was also at a time when the British economy was in such dire straits, that even the private businesses were literally begging to be taken over by the government. What was the Tories’ message? “We’ve Got Churchill!”.

Also Churchill shot himself in the foot, with a dissatrous radio broadcast right before the election, where he stated that Labour would use “Gestapo”-tactics to implement Socialism. Well you can only imagine how the press went to town on that, “Churchill Compares Labour to Gestapo”, especially so soon after the war, and with the knowledge of the Nazi’s atrocities. Even his own party was appalled, and if it wasn’t for his popularity with the people, the Consevatives would have sent him out to pasture, after the election.

But at the time, Churchill was all the Tories really had, so they were at least smart enough to keep him on as Leader of the Party.

Fast forward to 1951, Churchill was back at 10 Downing Street , where he served until 1955 when he retired at the age of 80.

But of course, it’s not a total happy ending, Labour basically got their socialist program installed, which is still there to this day.


37 posted on 01/17/2021 9:27:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Get out and meet with people. Become involved at the local level. Promote conservatives and under mind the rest. Work with young people this is very important. Go to school board, city, and county council meetings. Take some like minded friends with you and make an evening of it.


38 posted on 01/17/2021 9:28:23 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Trump needs to restore the Bull Moose Party

Look how well that worked for Teddy Roosevelt.

/s


39 posted on 01/17/2021 9:28:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: chajin

[I haven’t heard anyone compare such an election to the 1912 three-way with Teddy Roosevelt attempting to return to the Presidency after the then-deep-stater Taft took over. Which probably means it’s been written about numerous times in the last week or so :-) ]


I’ve referred several times to Perot’s two gifts of the presidency to Slick Willy. But if someone of TR’s charisma couldn’t defeat Wilson in 1912, ushering in one of the worst presidencies in the history of the Republic, I’d be surprised if Trump could. And TR carried the 1904 popular vote by a 20% margin and defeated his opponent by 200 EV’s. Note the way the Bull Moose Party has disappeared without a trace, except in the history books.


40 posted on 01/17/2021 9:28:48 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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