Posted on 01/17/2021 9:02:35 AM PST by Peter ODonnell
Considering that both parties would cheat if any one else wins... Zero chance at third party
Pro small business....not flat out chrony corporatism monoply bs.
You discover that a roulette table is rigged. How will you make back your losses from the last hour in the next round?
I think you are dreaming if you think there is a way to vote out of this mess/situation.
Whoever wrote this is clueless.
Election success? Kind of hard to have that when they can steal it at will.
Thanks for the novella?
IMO people need to recapture the election supervisor spots. D or R or whatever but not corrupt.
Make elections fair and the rest will take care of itself. Without that, all the organizing and fundraising is useless.
You seem to be another one that missed the import of the 2020 election. The Democrats proved they own the entire US election system nationwide. So according to your theory they will magnanimously relinquish their absolute power over the election system because thy will certainly have a change of heart by 2020 or at most by 2024.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
PS: I fought these people for 45 years and lost - now its your turn. Good Luck. See tag line
After the OBVIOUS, plain daylight, in your face theft in the last election the very asking of this question is supremely idiotic. The Democrats can now decide who of the uniparty will win what.
IMHO, the sackcloth and ashes routine is unwarranted. Trump will get to finish the job that Bannon got him to start - fire all the GOP incumbents opposed to the Trump agenda during the primary process. He’ll then have people who owe him when he returns to the White House in 2024.
You may think this is far-fetched and whistling past the graveyard. But there are solid historical reasons for optimism. Let’s assume the Democrats’ basic premise is true, i.e. that Trump lost fair and square. Trump’s loss wasn’t terrible - a couple of hundred thousand votes short in the swing states that decide the White House race. This is in the face of two outlier events - a mass casualty pandemic and the resultant economic depression representing the worst downturn since the Great Depression.
The Democrats expected a complete sweep of the states, both at the White House and Congressional levels. FDR got a 413 electoral vote victory margin. Biden’s was 74. The 1932 House elections gave the Democrats a 196-seat margin, vs the ~12-seat margin they got in 2020. The 1932 Senate elections moved the Democrats to a 22-seat margin, vs the 1-seat margin (thanks to the VP tie breaker vote) they just got after the 2021 GA runoffs. This was a blue wave a toddler could safely paddle in, not a tsunami.
If you accept the Democratic premise that Trump lost by 7m votes, that’s a Biden popular vote margin of 4%. FDR’s victory margin over Hoover? 28%.
That’s why they’re trying to prevent Trump from running again. He’s no Herbert Hoover, whose political career was over the day the results came in. The Dems aren’t afraid Trump will get the 2024 GOP nomination and lose in the general. They’re worried that one hiccup or other before 2024 will send Trump back to the White House with commanding GOP majorities, but this time cleansed of the never-Trumpers who gave him so much trouble in his first term.
If Trump intends to run again, the interval from now until presidential season should* involve the installation of Republicans who support the Trump agenda in the midterms, and the removal of those who don’t. Bannon’s quest to populate elected offices with Trump supporters needs to resume, so that when Trump re-enters the White House, his agenda is ready to go from Day 1.
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
You could also compare the numbers to those from the Spanish Flu election of 1920. Something similar happened, except this time, the incumbent Democrats lost big, with the GOP getting a 2/3 majority in the House. They would probably have gotten the same thing in the Senate, if every seat was up for grabs, rather than just 1/3. Point being that the pollsters were presumably modeling their blue wave poll results on 1920 and 1932, which were disastrous for the incumbents and resulted in ~300 and up electoral vote victory margins (i.e. winner - loser EV’s). Now that was a mandate. Whereas Biden had a ~70 EV margin, based on 1-2% popular vote margins in the swing states being litigated over. He’s skating on very thin ice.
* The big question is obviously whether Trump will run. Given what we’ve seen of Trump’s decision-making process, maybe he himself doesn’t know the answer.
The thing about such a comeback is that it’s so rare, it would be another superlative to add to his record - a real feather in his cap. Health permitting, I don’t see him not running. Fred Trump only began displaying signs of dementia at age 86, dying at age 93, so it would not surprise me if the Donald were physically up to the challenges of another term in the White House.
And Republicans are wimps and fold like a cheap card table. Grow a pair Republican Party.
To quote our “brothers” over at BLM: “Burn the MFer down!”
Well, the OP asked.
The GOP, short of some titanic unforeseen shift politically has Zero chance in 2024.
The one hope they had, which was MAGA has been betrayed by their establishment wing..
Short of Trump making it his life’s quest to purge this 1/3 of the elected folks in the party out... and taking over the party there is no chance for a GOP win every again.
They have decided honest and fair elections do not matter...
And betrayed the very idea of a republic...
Only chance for the GOP is Either someone with Trump at the end of their name, or someone that his supporters believe will carry the MAGA mantle... and they have shown they want none of it...
So much so they betrayed their nation to get rid of it.
The first order of business for a new party should be removing the capital from the Wretched City. Strong medicine.
It might be too late but the sooner we start the better. Right now we are on the road to nowhere. This is clear and irrefutable.
“I think you are dreaming if you think there is a way to vote out of this mess/situation.”
Dittos. Voting is a goner now. They learned to cheat and the rule of law was never reestablished.
America First! Party. Abbreviate A1.
A1! Party.
The name alone defines it. Hard to demonize the name. No doubt what it stands for. Will attract people from all sides. Does not mention republican, which is a feature, not a bug.
I’m done with Rs and changing my registration to NPA.
I’m not going to read this Post in its entirety for one reason. People need to give up this fantasy that any party is going to how’s the Democrats in 2024. The simple reason that the massive vote fraud in 2020 is going to be repeated and to a greater degree.
To my knowledge no one has presented a plan with any chance of success to rollback the Democrat’s control of the voting system. Don’t you people get it? Doesn’t matter who will run in 2024, they’re going to create millions of votes electronically as well as adding 10 to 20 million newly legalized illegals to the voting rolls.
If they successfully perpetrated the nearly unbelievable level of fraud in this last election, why does anyone think after 4 years of them controlling the entire federal government it’s going to be anything but much worse?
Think about deliberately losing 3, 2-year cycles.
Don’t vote, or vote against Republicans.
It’s the only way.
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