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What a Second American Civil War Could Look Like
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Mark Nuckols

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:19:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

I fear that there is a looming civil war on the horizon. It is not yet inevitable, but all true American patriots must be prepared for the coming battle. And the costs in blood will be heavy. This war will not be fought like the American Revolution or the Civil War of 1861-65, where disciplined armies observed the laws of war and respected civilian lives.

This war will be waged by far-left radicals and their deep-state puppet masters. For them, civilian casualties and massacres will not be moral evils, but merely part and parcel of their larger plan to “reconstruct” America. Their objective is simple: overthrow our constitutional order, destroy our way of life, and deprive us of our freedom, our liberties, our property, and our honor.

I have spent many years in countries that have suffered civil war and its horrors, such as Russia (including Chechnya), Syria, Lebanon, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. I have also carefully studied the history of revolutions and civil conflict. And until recently I would never have believed a second civil war in America to be possible. But the warning signs are all there, and they began appearing most visibly when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president. He is the first American politician that strikes fear into the hearts of both the deep state and the radical left. And that fear makes them extremely dangerous.

The Bolshevik October Revolution of 1917 was carried out by a mere few thousand party members in St. Petersburg. And it was sudden and unexpected, the Bolshevik Central Committee made the decision to launch a coup d’etat only hours before its execution. In fact, as late as July 1917 Lenin himself did not expect a communist revolution in his lifetime. The Russian Civil War that followed is a horrifying story of savage carnage and obscene violence.

In similar fashion, I believe one likely spark for the Second American Civil War will be the result of a coup d’etat carried out by anti-America extremists. It will catch most Americans by surprise. The coup plotters will act quickly to seize the critical levers of power, before any opposition has a chance to react. And they will be aided and abetted by the kinds of people Lenin referred to, contemptuously, as useful idiots.

The shock troops will come from the ranks of Antifa and radical anti-white elements of the Black Lives Matter movement. These fascist stormtroopers will be augmented by the even larger numbers of veterans of Occupy and other far-left movements. And jihadists from across the globe will flock to support this coup. But the real power will be behind the scenes, in the hands of the bureaucrats of the American deep state, who will see such a far-left coup as their best chance to preserve and expand their far-reaching powers, but which President Trump threatens.

Much of the mainstream media will initially be warmly supportive. A few so-called conservatives at The New York Times may meekly protest that while the ends of the revolution are laudable, perhaps the means are a bit too messy. But most of the liberal media will fall into lockstep, in the belief that as long as they are supportive, the coup leaders will allow them to stay in business. Many Americans will believe their pro-coup propaganda and quietly submit, or at least refrain from overt resistance.

The faculties at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton will pass resolutions of fervent support, and their brainwashed students will rush to enlist in the revolution before all the excitement passes. Likewise, left-leaning foundations and oligarchs will promise financial support. And the Federal Reserve will flood the economy with debased currency.

Not all Democrat politicians will turn traitor, but there will be some prominent establishment “statesmen” who will betray our country. They will naively believe that they will be able to control the revolution and turn it to their own purposes. When their fig leaf of respectability is no longer required, they will get the fate they deserve. But their role will be critical, to give coup leaders the guise of “continuity of government” while they seize the critical levers of power.

America’s external enemies will not sit by idly. The new revolutionary government will offer generous terms in return for “foreign assistance” (meaning secret police), and troops if necessary. Expect a Treaty of San Antonio whereby Mexico “recovers her historic territories” of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California. Russia will expect a return of Alaska (and its oil) to the Motherland. China and the European Union will demand we surrender our economic sovereignty and become vassals of Beijing and Brussels. And, of course, the United Nations will offer to send in the “blue helmets” to “restore civil order.” North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran will all also want in on the spoils in return for “technical support.”

And what will be the agenda of this regime? The first priority is obvious: the confiscation of all privately owned guns. An armed citizenry ready and prepared to defend its rights would be an intolerable threat to the regime. The next logical step would be identifying any and all possible sources of opposition and interning them and their families in “re-education” camps. The third priority will be a radical redistribution of property. It would destroy the American free-enterprise economy, but short-term it would guarantee the loyal support of all those hoping for a share of the spoils.

I do not wish to be alarmist. But what I describe here is a plausible scenario. And have no doubt, our nation’s enemies are resolute and determined. The continued existence of our great country, the United States of America, will depend on the bravery, strength, resourcefulness, and patriotism of her most loyal citizens. We must stand prepared for all possible threats.

May God bless and protect America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: america; antifa; banglist; blm; civilwar; communism; cwii; cwiiping; deepstate; marxism; preppers; shtf
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To: Brian Griffin

Stupid should hurt. Including those dumb enough to finance a college education they cant pay back. Let the parents who bred and raised these students reap what they sowed..


61 posted on 07/21/2020 6:55:42 AM PDT by Ikeon (Sht happens, its in the Bible. read Job...)
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To: Kaslin

Hard-working Hispanics need to understand who will be made to pay the taxes in the future.


62 posted on 07/21/2020 6:58:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PapaBear3625
How would they do that? Violent disruption (including bombing) of polls in heavily Republican areas. In Democrat areas, BLM people barring white people from entering.

They have already been doing a dry run for that even as we speak. Remember Philly in 2012 with those Black Power thugs?

63 posted on 07/21/2020 6:58:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Ikeon

I’m sure many white BLM protesters have excessive student debt.


64 posted on 07/21/2020 7:01:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ransomed

It’s not about economic well being here.
Why would Antifa/BLM receiving free $2400 every month be rioting every day if it were?


65 posted on 07/21/2020 7:01:50 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Yo-Yo
“In CWII, all 50 states have factions from both sides, but no state governments willing to break away from the United States to create their own country.”

If President Trump is reelected and begins to do the things that must be done, I can see California and other radical states attempting to break away.

Right now, they repudiate federal authority to do anything other than send money.

66 posted on 07/21/2020 7:04:41 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
If President Trump is reelected and begins to do the things that must be done, I can see California and other radical states attempting to break away.

Gee, I'd have to think long and hard on whether I'd really want to fight to keep Kalifornia in the Union...

67 posted on 07/21/2020 7:06:48 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
“Gee, I'd have to think long and hard on whether I'd really want to fight to keep Kalifornia in the Union... “

Having them in the Union is like getting a blood transfusion from an AIDS patient every day.

Let them secede, become their own country, declare war on them when they misbehave, and seize them as a territory.

68 posted on 07/21/2020 7:15:58 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Kaslin

This Fall (pre or post election) I strongly expect localized or regionalized disruption of electric power (periodic and/or extended). If electric power goes down then so will water and communication. These will further add to the chaos and pandemonium. Who is going to be out working to maintain vital communities if chaos is reigning in the streets and everyone is hunkering down trying to figure out what is going on?

Hearing Matt Bracken and Ferfal’s youtube discussion recently about how easy it would be to disrupt the power grid by taking out transformers is making a little nervous about utilities and their reliability.

There goes all the kids playing video games and all the binge watching of Netflix, Amazon, etc. No Facebook. No Twitter. No internet. No refrigeration. No water. No air conditioning. No heat.

Just my thoughts on one aspect of the 2nd American civil war. Plan accordingly and plan not to come in second place. There will be no participation trophies.


69 posted on 07/21/2020 7:18:26 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I think you are on to something....

But Portland is just one city, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, etc...are all run by socialist/communists who are waging a civil war already....IMO, these cities are staging points or points of control for the communists, once they establish control, if they haven’t already then it will spread to smaller cities near major communist controlled cities....

Think about the idea of defunding the police, get control of these major cities, remove the police who could put up obstacles to the revolt spreading and then it will be all out street battles going on all over the place....


70 posted on 07/21/2020 7:21:04 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: jeffersondem
If President Trump is reelected and begins to do the things that must be done, I can see California and other radical states attempting to break away.

From your keyboard to God's ear...Please, please, please make this happen...

71 posted on 07/21/2020 7:21:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kaslin

I am doing some research on the Cultural Revolution in China in the mid 60’s.

The parallels are kind of scary.

And it doesn’t bode well for the leaders of the anarchists. They tend not to make it through the second round.


72 posted on 07/21/2020 7:21:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Kaslin

The comming Civil War will include Governors of states and local community officers

Bank on them borrowing the lock down model to seize power.


73 posted on 07/21/2020 7:22:08 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: SmokingJoe; Pollster1
One way or another, there is going to be a lot of violence between the elections and inauguration day and even beyond. So far, it's the Antifa/BLM doing all the shooting. It will not stay that way come November.

I disagree. After the election, Trump would have no remaining reason to restrain his response. Plus it would serve no purpose.

The main violence will come in the weeks leading up to the election, with the objective of scaring Republicans from voting.

74 posted on 07/21/2020 7:23:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Diogenesis

Fauci lives rent free in a lot of heads on FR.

He is a government drone. Nothing more. It is pretty clear that no one on the Covid group listens to him very much.

He gives “good TV” to the folks on CNN/MSNBC. Thats pretty much it.


75 posted on 07/21/2020 7:24:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: VanDeKoik
This whole thread reads like a bunch of people that need to see a shrink, honestly.

Okay...

76 posted on 07/21/2020 7:24:16 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: Pollster1
It could start as early as the window between Election Day and Inauguration Day.

War is coming. We're probably past the point of no return as I don't see how we can reconcile with people who want to destroy us. The starting point is unclear, but I agree that the time between Election Dan and Inauguration Day could be very volatile.

77 posted on 07/21/2020 7:25:30 AM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“I disagree. After the election, Trump would have no remaining reason to restrain his response. Plus it would serve no purpose.”

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That depends on the make up of the Senate.

Also, I actually can see the opposite sort of thing from Trump after the need for re-election is off the table and he is free’d up a bit on policy. I could see him backing off from pressuring these whack-job run liberal cities and let them continue to shoot themselves (and unfortunately their citizens) in the foot, and focus on ‘law and order’ where the people and their leaders actually want it.


78 posted on 07/21/2020 7:26:24 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Vermont Lt
And it doesn’t bode well for the leaders of the anarchists. They tend not to make it through the second round.

You are correct. What the vast majority of people (and many on FR) do not understand is that if this continues, whoever ends up in control is not going to be who everyone thinks it will be. It is going to be a rude and sorrowful awakening.

79 posted on 07/21/2020 7:35:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: mountainlion

Rural areas need to organize. They have one great advantage, locally elected sheriffs, the right Sherriff would work to organize the militia. And when the shtf he can deputize them augmenting his force. If these militias work with the other town and county militias to form larger groups and a network and framework to mobilize into larger units. Survival is in towns that organize not little hidey holes that you hope to stash your family to live through the ‘troubles’. Big Cities are only a week away from total disaster. That is when a breakdown in the supply chain results in starvation. Cities are havens for Democrats, socialists and communists and should be barricaded and isolated from the rest of the country.


80 posted on 07/21/2020 7:36:08 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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