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Less Electricity Will Cost Californians More
Newsmax ^ | November 26, 2019 | By Paul F. deLespinasse

Posted on 11/27/2019 7:09:50 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The costs of global warming continue to mount up.

Californians pay nearly the highest electricity prices in the continental United States, about twice as much per kilowatt-hour (kwh) as in nearby Oregon and Washington.

Nevertheless, California's prices are probably not high enough.

Some of the fires plaguing the drought-stricken state were caused by electrical lines downed by falling trees and by malfunctioning transformers. These fires have caused billions of dollars of damage to homes and other property.

The resulting lawsuits have bankrupted Pacific Gas and Electric (PGE).

Ultimately, California's electricity consumers will have to pay for what it costs to generate and transmit power safely and will do so in their electric bills. Since the current price of electricity in California, high as it already is, is insufficient to pay all of these costs, the price per kilowatt-hour will have to go up, probably a lot.

The price in California may soon equal or surpass the current rates in Hawaii ( 34 cents per kwh ) or in Germany (27 cents per kwh).

As the price of electricity goes up, it will motivate people to use less of it.

It will also encourage more people to install solar panels on their houses and businesses. These actions will reduce how much electricity PGE will need to pump through its lines, making it easier to operate them safely.

The coming price increases in California will not be pleasant.

Unreliable electricity would be worse.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Germany; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: california; electricity; energy; germany; hawaii; hydrocarbons; maga; opec; oregon; socialism; washington
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To: jonascord

here on the delmarvalous eastern shore the geese have taken up residence...

30,000 were just eradicated to the horror of a lot of environmentalists... and they could take another 30,000 away and it would start to make a difference...

protect the migratory pathways, eliminate the ones that stay behind.


21 posted on 11/27/2019 8:33:24 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Time to break the power of Big Electric and become self-sufficient. My parents recently installed solar panels on their garage and say it was worth every penny to be free from SDGE’s silly rules.


22 posted on 11/27/2019 8:50:43 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But they have windmills and solar panels.

So there’s that.


23 posted on 11/27/2019 8:53:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh BS. Billions are stolen by politicians and other cronies. There’s more than enough $ to fix everything.


24 posted on 11/27/2019 9:01:02 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

25 posted on 11/27/2019 9:11:38 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: MrEdd

Yeah because laughing at bad things that happen to fellow Americans is so.............American! Now go go kick a dog to brighten the rest of your day.


26 posted on 11/27/2019 9:16:43 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
Bad things didn't happen. Foreseeable consequences to bad decisions happened. And the people to whom the consequences happened lashed out at people who explained what the consequences were going to be instead of correcting their course. I chose to leave because of the course. I joined those issuing warnings early on.

Your expressed anger and defiance combined with your lack of humility or contrition fails to impress in any way. The only course I see for California at all is to let it stew in its own juices and allow it to collapse completely if it continues. Decertify the state government if is falls and revert it to a territory. If it goes that way, so be it. Let it (or parts of it) reapply for statehood if they later become functional. But to head collapse off now is going to require an entirely different way of thinking from the populace. Republicans included. Perhaps if the party had been composed of people who would have chosen actual conservatives like McClintock instead of Hollywood airheads like Schwarzenegger it might have recovered its voice and had some input. But it ceased to stand for anything other than a different letter in front of the name. I lived there. Don't presume you are being lectured by some outsider.

27 posted on 11/27/2019 9:46:44 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Solar on your roofs.....

California mandates that IF you install solar, you MUST connect it to ‘the grid’. Most people think that is great—because if they generate more than they use, the power company MUST buy it from you..

HOWEVER-—When the power goes down or is deliberately shut off-—YOUR SOLAR IS ALSO SHUT OFF and you don’t have any power. MANDATES sure help, right???


28 posted on 11/27/2019 11:04:53 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The price of green free energy is steep


29 posted on 11/27/2019 11:37:17 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!me tking public being de)
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To: MrEdd

Oh my God! You have cut me to the quick with your psychological evaluation, I guess I got my turkey early this year.


30 posted on 11/27/2019 12:06:30 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MrEdd
Decertify the state government if is falls and revert it to a territory.

Now there's an idea...

31 posted on 11/27/2019 12:09:24 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: ridesthemiles

>>> California mandates that IF you install solar, you MUST connect it to ‘the grid’. <<<

The State mandated that Public Utilities MUST produce X% of their electricity by renewable sources by 20XX. Solar power plants are expensive and horribly inefficient, so the Utilities provided incentives to homeowners who install solar on their roof. The incentives were about 10-15% of the actual solar installation cost. The lifecycle of a solar panel is about 20 years, and the panels loose half their efficiency at their half-life. So 85-90% of the cost for solar was passed on to homeowners who fill the grid with electricity.

The result - - the Public Utilities met their renewable goals on the back of homeowners, the PUC’s met their mandates, and California bureaucrats patted themself on the back for going “green”.

Evil genius.


32 posted on 11/27/2019 12:14:18 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Mastador1
There is nothing of psychology about it.
It's simple responsibility, and the ancient principle of reciprocation.

It doesn't matter how much you personally think that reciprocation doesn't apply to Californians Mastador1.

It does.

People have pointed out for many decades what California's policies would inevitably lead to.

And the reaction of Californians has been either to respond nastily or to move away.

Decades of nasty responses have burned up most of the good will outside of California for Californians. It has been fully earned. It's called reciprocation.

There is no snarky reply left to you, Mastador1.
There is nothing you can say that is either nastier or different than Californians were saying to people from out of state and to their neighbors who advised them to implement fire prevention and control measures and to increase their power production capacity and to look into desalination plants going back to the seventies when it was being said in a gentler, less stern way.

Now all that is left for California is we “We told you so”s

You are reaping what California has sown for decades, both in the results of its policies and in reciprocity of the manner in which Californians have responded to others for decades.

No one (myself included) has made remarks that were not fully earned.

33 posted on 11/27/2019 12:30:38 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Impala64ssa
My parents and many others fell for that scam during the 1973 oil embargo. Our local utility co., Orange and Rockland hired a PR flack, Linda Winikow, one of the 1st women to serve in the NY Senate who encouraged everyone to save on electric and gas usage.
So we did, the thermostat in the house was turned down, my mom warned us in no uncertain terms to turn off the lights and TV when leaving a room, etc.
Sure enough their next utility bill was lower. Before long the CEO of O&R announced that, guess what, the rates are going up because revenue dropped due to people CONSERVING ENERGY LIKE THEY WERE TOLD TO DO!

California in the '70s pulled that same trick with a "water shortage", exhorting people flushing toilets "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down." People did so, with the same results.

34 posted on 11/27/2019 2:42:07 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Jolla
Rent in this market is half of SD and 1/4 of SF

What about wages?

35 posted on 11/27/2019 3:30:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
What’s that old saying, “You made your bed . . . now sleep in it.”

Nope.

Move to Colorado and/or Utah!


36 posted on 11/27/2019 3:30:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jonascord
Then there are the COWBIRD democrats. (Google® it)
37 posted on 11/27/2019 3:33:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teeman8r

We NEVER had Canada geese in Indiana when I was a kid; now they are EVERYWHERE!!

And ya CAN’T kill them; either!!!


38 posted on 11/27/2019 3:34:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teeman8r

https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+kill+Canada+geese+in+Indiana&ie=&oe=


39 posted on 11/27/2019 3:35:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

<>The price in California may soon equal or surpass the current rates in Hawaii ( 34 cents per kwh ) or in Germany (27 cents per kwh).<>

My rate in north Florida is 7.6 cents/KWH.

Abandon Californicate.


40 posted on 11/27/2019 3:36:13 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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