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About 40% of H-1B Jobs Give Employers a Tidy $40,000/Year Discount
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | 18 January 2019 | David North

Posted on 01/21/2019 2:54:01 PM PST by zeestephen

A recently released report on the H-1B program (for skilled nonimmigrant workers) indicates that in at least 40 percent of the jobs the employer gets a full-time (alien) worker for a $40,000 a year discount from actual prevailing wages.

(Excerpt) Read more at cis.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthefence; corporatewelfare; daca; dreamact; dreamers; freetraitors; h1b; legalimmigration
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To: central_va

I think you misread atomic dog’s intent.

Atomic dog, in my opinion, is also being critical of H-1B.

If you don’t see that, well, let’s agree to disagree.


81 posted on 01/21/2019 7:15:39 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

H1B bump for later.....


82 posted on 01/21/2019 8:10:31 PM PST by indthkr
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To: neverevergiveup
Re: “Overuse of H-1Bs has had a very bad effect on US science.”

I agree.

It also has a strangling effect on essential capital investment by software companies.

They need to be continuously creating or purchasing more efficient software development tools.

I don't work for software company, but, from the outside, it looks like an industry where “work-in” is always less than “work-out,” and where productivity grows at a glacial pace, and maybe not all.

83 posted on 01/21/2019 8:20:12 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: SunkenCiv
I can't believe some right wing xenophobe tries to stand in the way of eliminating jobs for Americans! /s

Good one Civ...

84 posted on 01/21/2019 9:05:41 PM PST by GOPJ (Anyone remember MSNBC bimbos crying about out-of-work steel workers or coal miners or anyone?)
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To: zeestephen

Long-time lurker, American citizen. First post. Came back to the US to MAGA, only to last 2 months at Microsoft in Redmond, Washington. Got some really bad loan from a 5-6 in the Philippines, where I had a great job to come back to the USA after 20 years teaching college internationally, including 8 years teaching American servicemen and dependents in Germany before the big 2004 to 2006 BRAC closings.

Best I could do is an Orange-badge contract worker with low-pay and no benefits (99% of recruiters are Indian or Indian-American). I replied to a real American recruiter, borrowed money and paid my way back here. Whilst Microsoft brings in Blue-badge H1B foriegners from the PRC and India by the bucket-load. 4 Americans on the team replaced by fresh blue-card Indians. Unemployed now and out of funds. H4 visa workers fill the retail worker slots in the Redmond area. Even workers at Arby’s and Fred Meyer are mostly foriegners. Something needs to be done.


85 posted on 01/21/2019 10:00:55 PM PST by Starcitizen
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To: poinq

Seriously? I’m an American programmer, been teaching and developing (C++, C#, Java, etc) for 20 years, going back to 30 years if you count Applesoft and GWBasic. I can’t bypass the Indian recruiters that own the market, at least in the Redmond/Bellevue Washington area.


86 posted on 01/21/2019 10:00:55 PM PST by Starcitizen
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To: GOPJ
:^)

87 posted on 01/22/2019 12:05:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Starcitizen

Welcome. I hope the others return to the thread and see your post.

Please stick around. You have much to contribute to this topic.

Have a good day.


88 posted on 01/22/2019 5:09:00 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Starcitizen

Never go to any company that uses Indian recruiters. Try smaller software firms. There are thousands who are dying for good programmers. My son just got a job straight out of college before he graduated for $80K and he had three job offers to choose from. No recruiter, nor school help. If there is an Indian in the process the salary will be lower. I agree with you that Indians have a slave labor mentality. And somehow they own H1-Bs.


89 posted on 01/22/2019 6:58:56 AM PST by poinq
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To: entropy12
But then what stops those outfits from moving the whole operation abroad?

The biggest thing is that many companies that 'offshored' their workload discovered that it was a losing proposition.

90 posted on 01/22/2019 8:24:09 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Starcitizen
(99% of recruiters are Indian or Indian-American)

This annoys the heck out of me. I have 2 messages in my inbox from indian recruiters that I would have considered had it come from someone whose name I could pronounce.

91 posted on 01/22/2019 8:40:57 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: NobleFree

I have seen middle class disappear before my eyes in Chiacgo area. No, it was not due to H1-B visa’s. It was due to companies moving their manufacturing operations abroad.

Until 1960 or so, Chicago was one of the prominent manufacturing centers of the country. When factories were closed due to moving to cheaper labor countries, middle class manufacturing jobs disappeared.

Solution? Only solution I see is BALANCED trade via tariffs. If a company moves their IT operation abroad, there should be tariffs on that product as well.

But doing it with artificial restrictions on domestic production goes against basic tenets of free market capitalism.


92 posted on 01/22/2019 12:33:59 PM PST by entropy12 (One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
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To: poinq

I agree with your idea because it is free market capitalism principles. No need to restrict other outfits, just choose the one you prefer, freely and without government dictate.


93 posted on 01/22/2019 12:36:13 PM PST by entropy12 (One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
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To: entropy12
When factories were closed due to moving to cheaper labor countries, middle class manufacturing jobs disappeared.

Solution? Only solution I see is BALANCED trade via tariffs. If a company moves their IT operation abroad, there should be tariffs on that product as well.

But doing it with artificial restrictions on domestic production goes against basic tenets of free market capitalism.

Tariffs also go against basic tenets of free market capitalism. And all that is A-OK - "free trade" sounded good only until we saw how free traderstraitors used it.

94 posted on 01/22/2019 12:51:52 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

You are confusing DOMESTIC free market system with international trading balances.


95 posted on 01/22/2019 1:34:30 PM PST by entropy12 (One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
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To: NobleFree

Isolationist claptrap is anti business and anti capitalist.

The business of America is business and American business is international in scope.


96 posted on 01/22/2019 1:40:43 PM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Princess Gray Beaver, for President?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The wage needs to be higher. Try $250,000... payable to the H1-B & not to the middlemen (Desi Body Shops).

If the H1-B is that critical to the employer, 250 large shouldn’t be a problem.


97 posted on 01/22/2019 2:15:52 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: zeestephen

As a tech worker seeing what goes on I have formulated a simple argument for whether or not H1-Bs are being abused at the expense of American workers.
It is argued that H1-Bs are needed to address a shortage of skilled tech workers.
Basic econ supply and demand says that shortages cause prices to increase and oversupply causes prices to decrease.
Therefore if we need H1-Bs to address a shortage of skilled tech workers we should see wages (prices) on an upward trajectory that retains current workers encourages other new workers to enter the marketplace.
What I see is tech wages have stagnated. Starting wages for my degree on a inflation adjusted measure have decreased since I graduated. This causes college students to avoid STEM majors for being too much work for the pay level and I see many talented, experienced, smart co-workers seek jobs outside of tech, moving into sales, consulting, small (non-tech) business, finance, real estate, etc after being pushed out of tech jobs, often replaced by H1Bs.

The conclusion is not a real shortage. H1-Bs are unnecessary and are hurting Americans and our killing America’s ability to produce world class scientists and engineers from our domestic talent.


98 posted on 01/22/2019 2:50:08 PM PST by Data Miner
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To: Data Miner

Thank you and welcome to Free Republic. Great post.


99 posted on 01/22/2019 2:55:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: poinq

“Americans often wanted management. Many foreigners were happy to be left alone programming.”

In America engineers who aren’t looking for management jobs are sidelined by management. We consider it a problem for an American engineer to want to be an engineer. The same management, for whatever reason, are quite happy to find a foreigner that will toil away at the same job they look down on the American engineer for staying in. I’ve known a few engineering managers who hated being managers but saw it as their only path to surviving. Watching rounds of layoffs where sharp, talented people get walked out the door or who show themselves the door in anticipation tends to make for a lot of cynicism.


100 posted on 01/22/2019 3:01:51 PM PST by Data Miner
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