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About 40% of H-1B Jobs Give Employers a Tidy $40,000/Year Discount
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | 18 January 2019 | David North

Posted on 01/21/2019 2:54:01 PM PST by zeestephen

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To: entropy12

Dilbert is a documentary.


61 posted on 01/21/2019 4:49:04 PM PST by null and void (Build the wall, or don't get paid at all.)
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To: thoughtomator

This H1B maggot was sent to prison by Rod Rosensteins office. Got three years. My Life shows him working in the DC area in Unix.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/baltimore/press-releases/2010/ba121710.htm


62 posted on 01/21/2019 4:49:53 PM PST by dennisw
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To: thoughtomator

Of course it’s a no brainer they will steal valuable data and info and sell it back to Indian and Chinese companies. I sure would because as an H1B I would have no loyalty to America.


63 posted on 01/21/2019 4:52:08 PM PST by dennisw
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To: zeestephen

I’d like to see a hefty charge on H1B visas. An employer wants to get an H1B, he has to pay $50K/year for the visa, on top of what he pays the foreign worker. This would restrict H1B to just those cases where there truly is no American with the skill set.


64 posted on 01/21/2019 4:53:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: zeestephen

As I’ve been saying for some time. I work with large banks. They are stuffed full of H1B Indians working at significantly lower rates than Americans. No, we are not talking about IT people here. There are plenty in standard banking type jobs.

Nobody can tell me there aren’t plenty of qualified Americans for those jobs. This is just straight up abuse....an attempt to crush the bargaining power of Americans in their own country. We badly need to impose a tax on imported labor to ensure that it is MORE EXPENSIVE than domestic labor. Then and only then will companies stop abusing work visas to bring in cheap labor.

Both parties have been in on this.


65 posted on 01/21/2019 4:58:21 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: beancounter13

We had a simple programming test. About one in ten programmers passed it. Most companies would not hire a programmer without a Computer Science degree. The reason has to do with being sued. It was far easier to say that a Computer Science degree was required, than to tell HR that we were turning away 98% of African Americans and 80% of Americans. We would have hired anybody from those two groups if they passed the test no matter what. But a high percentage of foreigners did pass the test, maybe 30%.

The test was only three lines of SQL code. You had to edit the lines and/or fix them. Real programmers could do it. Hackers could not. A hacker could do massive damage to your software and it might take a year to fire him. As he missed deadlines and took up everyone’s time with bugs. A good programmer was worth his weight in gold. And we paid them well, foreign or not. Americans often wanted management. Many foreigners were happy to be left alone programming.


66 posted on 01/21/2019 5:00:41 PM PST by poinq
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To: Tired of Taxes

Reposting the direct link to the report:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/Reforming_US_High-Skilled_Guestworkers_Program.pdf


67 posted on 01/21/2019 5:03:20 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: entropy12
So you want to put restrictions on open market capitalism? That is slippery slope towards gov’t control of businesses.

Maintaining the prerequisites for an ongoing market system - such as the existence of a middle class - requires regulation. Failure to so regulate is a slippery slope toward the law of the jungle.

68 posted on 01/21/2019 5:08:42 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: null and void

Not in the least.

It’s just me and two developers.

If they aren’t looking, they are making a mistake. I’ve put in a few things but haven’t heard back.

Until, if and or when, I will trek to Hooterville. Besides I just earned an extra week’s vacation after a number of years of service.

I took a long weekend just now and what a difference it makes. Friday through Monday.

What havoc I will find tomorrow morning is anybody’s guess.

No panic calls or texts.


69 posted on 01/21/2019 5:10:16 PM PST by wally_bert (We're low on dimes in fun city.)
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To: zeestephen

That’s one I forgot about if I knew about it all.

Thanks for the tip.


70 posted on 01/21/2019 5:11:00 PM PST by wally_bert (We're low on dimes in fun city.)
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To: poinq

There was another article (somewhere) talking about college computer science departments not preparing students well enough for the workforce. That is, they’re not preparing them well enough in using programming languages, etc. ?

Do you think tech schools and just classes in different languages might offer better preparation?


71 posted on 01/21/2019 5:11:40 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: poinq

Do you think you may have deselected some really good candidates with a little training would have been great employees? Why was the test SQL based? Were you looking for SQL programmers?


72 posted on 01/21/2019 5:14:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: poinq
a high percentage of foreigners did pass the test, maybe 30%.

The test was only three lines of SQL code. You had to edit the lines and/or fix them.

If you used the same test for any length of time, it's very possible that it was spread through the foreign candidate community. I participate in a technical message board; many posts are about "the most commonly asked interview questions" and the posters are always Indians.

73 posted on 01/21/2019 5:19:54 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

We had lots of problems with Indians. But not because of the test. We would have known if there was wide spread sharing. We had the same grader who was one of our best programmers. He would have seen changes that were mere copies. It was subjective. And we did not give the questions on paper, nor did we tell people how they scored. We offered a job or we didn’t. I guess if someone boned up on SQL that may have helped. But we expect everyone with a CS degree should know SQL.

Our problem with Indians were that many of them wanted to be millionaires. And their ethics were often not compatible with ours. So we had more turnover with Indians than with anyone else. They were often smart enough. But if we did not fire them, they left for higher pay somewhere else.

Some of our best were eastern Europeans. They really understood high quality code. We also had many Chinese who were very good as well. Unlike the Indians, their English stopped them from being managers. We often paid them in respect. Respect goes a long way with great coders.

We had Americans too. Just not so many as you would have thought, maybe 10%. And at no time did we ever find as many programmers as we had positions to fill. And I don’t think we ever hired one black programmer in the past 25 years.


74 posted on 01/21/2019 6:00:36 PM PST by poinq
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To: wildcard_redneck
The suburb that I Live in lost $400 million in payroll. A vast parking lot in a "telecom campus" is now filled with satellite dishes that are talking to India.

This started many years ago, and this down is visibly decayed.

75 posted on 01/21/2019 6:36:37 PM PST by The Duke (President Trump = America's Last, Best Chanceh)
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To: central_va

For at least 10 years the US has used Indian H1-B for IT entry level positions. A whole generation of college grads have been deprived of valuable experience because of the foreign imports.


76 posted on 01/21/2019 6:58:17 PM PST by DazedVet (Self esteem cannot be taught in school but comes from actual achievement.)
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To: central_va

Re: “Anyone with a brain larger then a pea could see I was criticizing H-1B.”

You missed my point - again.

Your original Comment appeared to be directly critical of “atomic dog,” who wrote Comment #6.

You quoted his entire Comment, then wrote, “Here we go with the famous Free Republic static economic analysis,” then closed with, “What stupidity.”

In my opinion, atomic dog was also criticizing H-1B.


77 posted on 01/21/2019 6:59:03 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
That translates to they can’t exist without the H-1B program.

That is globalist propaganda scare tactics right there. They would exist but they would have to pay wages the Americans would accept.

78 posted on 01/21/2019 7:03:57 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: DazedVet

I’ve known for 20+ years that the USA is a corporatist cutthroat society. It is sick. Using foreign imports for ENTRY level is just sick.


79 posted on 01/21/2019 7:11:28 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: The Duke

Easy enough to fix. Mandate that the data for American citizens cannot be of offshored and that anyone that works with it or has to be an American citizen working on American soil. If you think about it it’s a national security issue as well.


80 posted on 01/21/2019 7:15:23 PM PST by wildcard_redneck
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