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OANN/ Gravis Marketing Poll Clinton 51%, Trump 49%
Oann via Trump Twitter ^ | June 17, 2016

Posted on 06/17/2016 11:15:21 AM PDT by Red Steel



TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016polls; crookedbiotch; election2016; newyork; polls; trump
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To: Red Steel

But HOW could THIS be? Our friends at Reuters said Trump is down 11 points?


61 posted on 06/17/2016 2:45:31 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Red Steel

That it’s even REMOTELY that close with the Witch on the other side shows how effed up the Country has gotten, especially after 7 years of the current dumbass.


62 posted on 06/17/2016 2:49:07 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Rooooters went D +18% (D 52%) to get their results LoL. People believe liberal Drat polls without reading the fine print.


63 posted on 06/17/2016 2:50:12 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NFHale

The press is now in full propaganda mode to push Shillary.

Trump is going to have to work hard and long on the campaign trail to overcome them. He’s the best at doing it, and he has to press this advantage to the maximum to overcome the forces arrayed against him.


64 posted on 06/17/2016 2:55:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Your basic math isn’t even right. This poll’s ideological totals are 46% conservative (somewhat or strong), not 42% you just said. Thats an overstatement by almost 10% (based off your own example). That is huge bias. It also shorts liberals 1%.

As far as the Dem v Repub affiliation numbers (Dems +7)

here are similar numbers (again from your own source, Gallup)

Democrats Increasing Their Edge in U.S. Party Affiliation

http://www.gallup.com/poll/190421/democrats-increasing-edge-party-affiliation.aspx

It shows a 6% gap.


65 posted on 06/17/2016 4:07:03 PM PDT by Abiotic (The ship of democracy, which has weathered all storms, may sink through the mutiny of those on board)
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To: Red Steel

most polls are allegedly oversampling democrats by about 8.3 percent, according to an article I read last weekend...
and undersampling republicans and independents... substantially.

just to keep it interesting ‘for the people’.
(well in order to influence outcomes for hillary and the gope)

If they are building calculations to keep that paradigm ‘effective’ in anyway... then the numbers are off by an order of magnitude... probably more than 8 percent...
She is very likely in a 5-8 point deficit.

the media and politocracy are collaborators in the subterfuge. Trump will slaughter her.


66 posted on 06/17/2016 4:56:01 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: Abiotic
So Gallup has it 40% R 46% D. I don't think so. That's too high for Ds. by 8% to 10%. It's no wonder Gallup quit doing political polls since they been off by a lot in the recent past. It's not 14% left for Independents or Others like Gallup says.

This is the way it looked like in the last presidential election and 3 years of it from Rasmussen. I doubt much has changed but a few points here and there.

October 31, 2012
Republican Democrat Other R - D Quarterly
2012
Oct 39.1% 33.3% 27.5% 5.8%
Sep 36.8% 34.2% 29.0% 2.6% 2.6%
Aug 37.6% 33.3% 29.2% 4.3%
Jul 34.9% 34.0% 31.1% 0.9%
Jun 35.4% 34.0% 30.5% 1.4% 1.8%
May 35.7% 33.8% 30.5% 1.9%
Apr 35.1% 33.1% 31.8% 2.0%
Mar 36.4% 33.4% 30.2% 3.0% 3.3%
Feb 36.0% 32.4% 31.6% 3.6%
Jan 35.9% 32.5% 31.6% 3.4%
2011
Dec 35.4% 32.7% 32.0% 2.7% 1.1%
Nov 34.3% 34.9% 30.8% -0.6%
Oct 34.3% 33.1% 32.6% 1.2%
Sep 33.9% 33.7% 32.4% 0.2% -0.3%
Aug 33.5% 33.0% 33.5% 0.5%
July 33.1% 34.8% 32.1% -1.7%
Jun 34.4% 34.7% 31.0% -0.3% 0.9%
May 35.6% 34.0% 30.4% 1.6%
Apr 34.8% 33.5% 31.7% 1.3%
Mar 34.0% 35.3% 30.7% -1.3% 0.0%
Feb 35.1% 34.3% 30.6% 0.8%
Jan 35.4% 35.0% 29.6% 0.4%
2010
Dec 37.0% 33.7% 29.3% 3.3% 0.6%
Nov 36.0% 34.7% 29.3% 1.3%
Oct 33.4% 36.3% 30.3% -2.9%
Sept 33.1% 34.6% 32.3% -1.5% -2.1%
Aug 33.8% 35.0% 31.1% -1.2%
July 31.8% 35.4% 32.8% -3.6%
June 33.0% 35.4% 31.6% -2.4% -3.3%
May 32.0% 35.1% 32.8% -3.1%
Apr 31.6% 36.0% 32.5% -4.4%
Mar 32.9% 36.2% 30.9% -3.3% -3.1%
Feb 32.1% 35.1% 32.9% -3.0%
Jan 32.3% 35.4% 32.3% -3.1%


67 posted on 06/17/2016 5:51:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

They ought to shorten their acronym to OA. OA News. I see OANN as ONAN. Maybe I’m just going blind.


68 posted on 06/17/2016 6:00:48 PM PDT by Rastus (#AlwaysTrump #NeverHillary)
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To: Red Steel
http://www.oann.com/pollnational/

D 40 R 33 I 27
That party Breakdown with that result is encouraging.
True turnout should be D+2
69 posted on 06/17/2016 6:29:45 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Rastus

Laughter ensues


70 posted on 06/17/2016 6:36:27 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: BigEdLB

I think that Trump has an excellent chance by getting out the vote. He should be able to match, get close, or even exceed Bush 37%R 37%D in 04 election according to exit polling. Obama in 2012 D38% and Romney 32%. What was it - about 4 million R voters as I recall didn’t show up to support Romney? Romney had a good chance to win, but he was a poor campaigner for many reasons, and his turnout also reflected it. The bottom line is turnout and getting them to vote as a block.


71 posted on 06/17/2016 6:43:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Romneys computers went down on election day (Soros hack?) and he had no backup Get out the vote stalled.. Trump will have multiple backups.


72 posted on 06/17/2016 7:18:01 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: WILLIALAL

hillary has peaked........ if she isn’t over 50% in a given state she will never get there; she will have trouble holding it ....Trump has a lot of upside


73 posted on 06/17/2016 8:27:21 PM PDT by changeitback440
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To: Red Steel

Well, he sure turned ‘em out in the primaries—set the record for a republican as I recall. Something to keep in mind.

By the way, if a polling outfit (not talking about this one, just speaking generally) and you wanted a certain outcome, you wouldn’t even have to “rig” it. All you’d have to do is poll 5 or 6 times simultaneously and pick the one you like best. At this point, I wouldn’t put anything past the anti-Trump folks.


74 posted on 06/17/2016 9:27:37 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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To: Red Steel

The actual result will be Trump 58% Clinton 42%


75 posted on 06/17/2016 10:10:43 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (And 2016 as well)
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To: Aria
Trump needs to sound more diplomatic.

You need to avoid the semi-retarded and those who prefer international globalist criminals because they sound "diplomatic". Ask the simpletons how letting Chris Stevens suffocate in a bathroom is diplomatic. I despise prissy assholes.

76 posted on 06/17/2016 10:19:51 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: NorthMountain

>> It’s absolutely appalling...

Indeed.

Just make sure you and your neighbors are represented by an honest delegate.


77 posted on 06/17/2016 10:25:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Aria

The diplomatic tone might work for Trump. He can still insult Hillary but should at least show off a diplomatic side but not one that surrenders to the Left.

Diplomacy to the Left means surrender to the Left. Really I guess he could just show some charm in his speeches. It worked well for Reagan.


78 posted on 06/17/2016 10:36:00 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: mrs9x

I think there is a certain stigma attached to someone who admits voting for Trump. The Left has gone feral trying to stygmatize anyone who agrees with him sobthey won’t admit supporting Trump. Trump just needs to play it cool and he wins going away


79 posted on 06/17/2016 10:40:51 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Red Steel

RE “...He’s the best at doing it...”

That’s because he’s the ONLY ONE doing it... :^)

Clearly, something we’re NOT accustomed to seeing. Breath of fresh air, to say the least...


80 posted on 06/18/2016 9:40:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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