Posted on 12/12/2015 2:39:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
DES MOINES REGISTER SHOCK POLL: CRUZ 29%, TRUMP 22%, RUBIO 13%, CARSON 11%
Oh ok— I have become accustomed to the claims of various candidates surging.... that end up meaning nothing...
Just read Setzer on the list. Didn’t catch it at first. I still smell a rat. This is the only poll that came out since the Muslim comments that have shown Trump going down. A 13 point difference in two polls that came out 5 days apart makes no sense. The sample size for the CNN was twice as large.
Saying TPP should be voted on after the next election is a very revealing response. He's still for it and if elected he will vote for this treason, unless Obama signs it first.
| the Numbers | |||||||||
| Among likely Republican caucus goers | |||||||||
| Carson | Cruz | Rubio | Trump | Not Sure | |||||
| Would be best at managing the economy | 7 | 24 | 10 | 50 | 8 | ||||
| Would do the most to solve the illegal immigration problem | 5 | 22 | 15 | 50 | 8 | ||||
| Knows the most about how to get things done | 6 | 22 | 13 | 49 | 10 | ||||
| Would be the best at reducing the federal deficit | 6 | 27 | 10 | 48 | 10 | ||||
| Can best combat Islamic terrorism | 5 | 32 | 13 | 35 | 16 | ||||
| Would be best at dealing with Vladimir Putin | 10 | 31 | 13 | 34 | 13 | ||||
| Has the best chance of beating Hillary Clinton | 11 | 26 | 20 | 30 | 14 | ||||
| Would make the best commander in chief | 12 | 34 | 18 | 25 | 11 | ||||
| Has the most appropriate life experience to be president | 10 | 34 | 19 | 24 | 13 | ||||
| Cares the most about people like you | 24 | 28 | 19 | 17 | 12 | ||||
| Has the right values to lead the nation | 22 | 34 | 18 | 16 | 10 | ||||
| Would work most effectively with Congress | 18 | 31 | 29 | 12 | 10 | ||||
| Has the best temperament to be president | 23 | 24 | 25 | 11 | 7 | ||||
| Would do the most to make all abortion illegal | 23 | 32 | 7 | 6 | 32 | ||||
| 182 | 401 | 229 | 407 | 174 | |||||
| All other things being equal, which of the following | |||||||||
| is a more attractive candidate for president at this time: | |||||||||
| 39 | A government outsider who has handled | ||||||||
| complex issues and managed teams | |||||||||
| 30 | A U.S. senator, who has involvement with national | ||||||||
| security and international relations and diplomatic issues | |||||||||
| 19 | A governor, who has worked with a legislature and | ||||||||
| who has been responsible for balancing a budget | |||||||||
| 12 | Not sure | ||||||||
| Which one of the following Republicans would be | |||||||||
| your first choice for president? | |||||||||
| And who would your second choice be? | |||||||||
| If Uncommitted or not sure in first choice question, | |||||||||
| code second choice | |||||||||
| as no first choice and do not ask. | |||||||||
| FIRST | SECOND | COMBINED | |||||||
| Cruz, Ted | 31 | 20 | 51 | ||||||
| Trump Donald | 21 | 14 | 35 | ||||||
| Carson, Ben | 13 | 14 | 27 | ||||||
| Rubio, Marco | 10 | 14 | 24 | ||||||
| Bush, Jeb | 6 | 5 | 11 | ||||||
| Christie, Chris | 3 | 3 | 6 | ||||||
| Huckabee, Mike | 3 | 5 | 8 | ||||||
| Paul, Rand | 3 | 3 | 6 | ||||||
| Kasich, John | 2 | 2 | 4 | ||||||
| Fiorina, Carley | 1 | 4 | 5 | ||||||
| Santorum, Rick | 1 | 2 | 3 | ||||||
| Gilmore, Jim | - | - | - | ||||||
| Graham, Linda | - | - | - | ||||||
| Pataki, George | - | - | - | ||||||
| Not Sure | 4 | 4 | |||||||
| Uncomitted | 3 | 3 | |||||||
| No First Choice | 7 | ||||||||
He has said he won’t vote for the kenyan antichrist’s TPP, and now he won’t vote for the enabling TPA. But if he is elected president and negotiates his own TPP, why would he not want to see it passed? Trade agreements can be good, or they can be bad. He is against bad ones. To object to Sen. Cruz on this issue is to expose yourself as a troll.
They will be in for a shock when they thought his camapign was solid that a lot of his yes men who are afraid to tell Trump the truth will start to quit, resign in droves.
Things are not what they seem.
I don't think it is delusional to believe that the Des Moines Register has an agenda, but I think it is delusional to think that they could buy off Ann Selzer's polling organization to throw a poll. In fact if it weren't delusional it would be libelous. You can believe that Trump is going to win, and you can believe that on whatever basis you choose, polling or just because the cut of his jib agrees with your sense of aesthetics. Throw yourself into it.
You don't have to be psychic to understand that Trump is winning...
LOL! In what world is Trump winning and not one ballot cast?
All you have to do is look on this thread to check some Cruz supporters histories that they are rabid followers
I have no problem with anyone being a rabid follower of either guy. What I object to is the dishonest slagging of the other guy. You say some of that comes from Cruz partisans. No doubt, that is so. But I follow these threads and you are comparing a chihuahua to a rabid doberman. So I am not buying the line that Trumpettes are only retaliating in kind. The fact is that I think many Trump supporters are overcompensating for some kind of nagging doubts about the guy. I am not a psychoanalyst, just a psycho, so I really cannot speculate on what drives this phenomenon.
I'm only telling you that I won't be found slagging Donald Trump, only some of his thin-skinnes boosters.
Actually it's a Bloomberg and a Des Moines Register poll. Both of these organizations have a record of a strong dislike for Trump more so than much of the media who pretty much dislike Trump, which is saying a lot. Bloomberg/Register are the paying sponsors for the poll. It's naive to think they do not have sway about how the pollsters conduct and craft or design the polls. They have input.
You can believe that Trump is going to win, and you can believe that on whatever basis you choose, polling or just because the cut of his jib agrees with your sense of aesthetics. Throw yourself into it.
Hundreds of poll over the last 6 months show Trump dominating even the ones that are conducted by organizations that have a significant bias against Trump. It is a strong indicator that Trump is in a very strong position to win the primaries in the coming months.
LOL! In what world is Trump winning and not one ballot cast?
In about 58 days tick toc... you'll get your wish, but likely not the results.
that I object to is the dishonest slagging of the other guy. You say some of that comes from Cruz partisans. No doubt, that is so.
Glad you're not a totally blind Cruzer. Plenty nastiness coming from your side.
But I follow these threads and you are comparing a chihuahua to a rabid doberman.
Disagree. You should read some of the comments about them. Plenty to see.
The fact is that I think many Trump supporters are overcompensating for some kind of nagging doubts about the guy.
Oh don't think so. We understand the possible shortcomings that Trump may have, but Cruzers can be oblivious to his possible shortcomings and to think their guy is some perfect animal. Some Trumpers have expressed that he maybe a little too slick.
I am not a psychoanalyst, just a psycho, so I really cannot speculate on what drives this phenomenon.
You're a "psycho"? Oh OK.
I'm only telling you that I won't be found slagging Donald Trump, only some of his thin-skinnes boosters.
Yeah sure.
It’s more important to keep in mind that the Iowa Caucuses are Monday, February 1, 2016. That is 50 days from now, over 7 weeks away, an eternity if you look at how the numbers have shifted in just the last month.
I don’t expect the anti-establishment candidates to be displaced by the GOP-E candidates, but I think if all the other GOP-E candidates exited and left the field to Rubio that his numbers would go up a lot. If they are going to do that, it will have to be in the next 2 or 3 weeks for it to have its impact.
I don’t see Trump, Cruz, or Carson dropping out. Fiorina is a non-politician candidate, but I think her time has come and gone. We’ll know after the next debate.
Even better than the 58 days than I wrote above. I meant to write 48 days... the shorter the better. ;-)
and left the field to Rubio that his numbers would go up a lot. If they are going to do that, it will have to be in the next 2 or 3 weeks for it to have its impact.
I read Yeb! is staying in the race at least until to the New Hampshire primary.
Yeb will have to spend a lot of walking around money in NH at this point. Direct payments to deadbeats and a campaign to get unregistered democrats to lie about their affiliation might just make a difference, but that would be evident, and I imagine Trump and Cruz and Rubio teams will be looking for that.
Ouch. Please re-read what I wrote, and why. It was a silly reply to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371855/posts?page=20#20 ... a collection of the stupidest arguments I’ve heard from Trump fanbois.
See, for example, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371855/posts?page=376#376 — my comment was a silly summary of those kinds of Trumpster trash.
I meant Rubio, but you’re right, could apply to Jebbie as well.
Amen, anybody but Booosh
If Yeb takes 5th, is he still viable? 6th?
Vomit them. LOL that is further than I can throw them.
I agree, bump it up to 150k
You have to chuckle at how many are acting here
If this holds up we’ve never had it so good if those are the two front runners
Amen brother, hopefully one of these two is our nominee. No more Bushes, No more Clintons.
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