Posted on 11/01/2015 11:48:48 AM PST by EveningStar
Donald Trump seems to want in on the escalating feud between Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R).
In an early-Sunday morning tweet-storm, a tactic that's become a hallmark of his campaign for president, Trump weighed in Rubio and Bush's relationship.
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Agree 100%.
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Amen to that!
But I have to say that Trump can send VERY confusing messages when he speaks on immigrants and immigration, legal and illegal alike.
I have listened to virtually every one of his speeches, either live or on YouTube. If I have one gripe with him it's how he presents his policy on immigrants.
He uses his machine-gun delivery to say he's going to deport all illegals...that the beautiful door is always open....that the educated, talented ones who attend prestige colleges are the ones we want to keep (my query: the educated legals AND the educated illegals, all of them or just some of them?...what about OUR graduates looking for jobs?)
He never mentions the QUOTA SYSTEM pertaining to immigrants from each and every origin country, a system we've operated under since the last century (my question: is there NO limit or NO quota per country in the Trump plan?)
Of course, I have more questions, too many to list here. But the devil is always in the details, and Trump only speaks in glittering generalities on immigration and illegals. I'd like at least SOME details to hold him to after he's elected.
I keep waiting for him to amplify even slightly, but he never does, we just get the same old speech lines repeated over and over.
The way he couches his words leave the low-info voters who don't know his style getting turned-off in many cases. This issue and the related jobs issue are the two most important topics in this primary campaign...and we know people are fed up and DON'T want open-end immigration any more...NOT EVEN SMALLER numbers unless and until our economy turns around and our children can find jobs after leaving school.
I have to say with all honesty that the uneasy folks on this thread who are questioning Trump's "beautiful door" vision are more afraid he's referring to an OPEN door...they are right in posting their concerns.....and as clued-in as I am to Mr. Trump's unique modus operandi, he's leaving me cold right now on the immigration issue because he's not even offering the most general specifics on how he's ACTUALLY going to address it. He just keeps harping on the same trite comments over and over again on how much he loves all those good-people foreigners and how so many thousands and thousands of wonderful foreigners he's employed over the years.
I hope my fellow Trumpeters get my drift on this subject. I can testify to the fact that when many of your grandparents (and mine) came from the old country to these shores....and before they sailed, they had to fill out a manifest stating they had a job awaiting them in the U.S....that they had X number of dollars in cash (around $70) in their possession.....that they had a sponsor in the new world (had to be named along with address and the relationship to the voyager)....that they had no criminal past nor any communicable disease, and if they had an injury or handicap or even a cold they had to write it down....along with a host of other probing questions. I've seen my kin's manifest....the documents can be obtained through the Ellis Island web site if your folks came through Ellis. Fascinating stuff.
Are those probative days gone forever...or will those who seek the "beautiful door" find it and then feel they can walk right in without the checks and balances of yesteryear?
Unfortunately, in some of his speeches referring to the subject of immigration. Trump makes it sound so easy and so "beautiful" to get into these fruited plains...and if you went to Hahvahd or Wharton you're already a step ahead.
Say that all this rainbow stuff isn't so, Mr. Trump.....and sooner rather than later. You can be both compassionate and tough on immigration and immigrants...and you're the only one that I can see who can successfully accomplish a workable and satisfactory program.
Times are tough for Americans.....and this is why immigration and jobs are at the top of the most-important-issues lists.
Leni
“He’ll be a fish out of water. Putin won’t be intimidated by his foul mouthed lawyer’s threats to sue the hell out of him.”
Do you really think that Trump’s plan on dealing with Putin is to threaten to sue him? Come on man, get serious.
I am disheartened by Trump not mentioning what is happening in Europe which can also happen here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so98K6crSec
Sheesh, we are all asleep.
the guy is telling bed time stories, and you're telling me to get serious?
Again, when a presidential candidate says that they are for expediting them back in they are staying that they would sign-off with a congress that votes for them to be expedited back in.
That is amnesty.
Agree.
not sure cruz would get rubio’s eastern establishment guys. in fact, cruz supporters probably want jeb and cruz to stay in to split the GOPe vote
‘No, his plan is “to have a great plan”...’
Not true my friend. He’s given plenty of specifics, and more importantly, has proven through his long business career that he knows how to get things done.
None of the candidates have ever been President before, so why is a first term senator, a doctor, or a governor more qualified to be President and deal with foreign leaders, than a successful businessman who has proven he knows how to manage and negotiate?
Both Cruz and Trump claim that educated STEM workers imported into this country create jobs.
I believe Cruz cites a study that says each imported STEM worker or Stem graduate creates 1.7 new jobs in this country.
Do I believe both Cruz and Trump on this.
TBD.
I think the real reason you equate deporting illegals to amnesty for illegals is because your candidate is for out right amnesty but is to chickens**t to tell the voters what he really thinks.
Have you read any of his position papers?
If you have, do you believe anything he says in them?
Trump released the details of his plan to finally clean up the VA yesterday, and now it will be dissected for sure! AND it is the ONLY plan any of us have heard about EVER! Just take John McCain, the one who professes to have done SO MUCH for Veterans. Truth is, the conditions of the VA in his home state of Arizona is one of the very worst in the nation! McCain and Graham are BIG talkers about helping our Veterans and full of NO ACTION!
Trump is still the candidate leading in all of the national polls. But he seems to be the ONLY candidate who is demanded for details on ALL his issue plans. Yet once Trump releases the details about one of his particular issue plans, I see no other candidate asked for the details on theirs!
Well, it’s good to know folks are paying attention. :)
Huh.
A presidential candidate who says he wants to deport and then expedite them back in is a presidential candidate who is for deporting them and then signing off on a congressional amnesty to expedite them back in. Really not very complicated.
That is some very strange thinking on your part. I think the real reason you equate deporting illegals to amnesty for illegals is because your candidate is for out right amnesty but is to chickens**t to tell the voters what he really thinks.
Do me a favor. Don't put words in my mouth. You're not smart enough.
Yep. Trump called it (the truth about Jeb! and the Rube) weeks ago.
Funny how many things Trump calls come to pass.
It’s not even a “rant”...I saw the tweets this morning and thought nothing burger.....except, thanks for calling out the Rube’s weak, Gang of 8 amnesty stance.
He’s telling fairy tales. And being the winning sperm cell in the lottery of life is not “getting things done”. It’s astonishing to me that people are supporting this former (as in July) liberal rather than Ted Cruz.
Astonishing.
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