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New York federal judge rules NSA phone surveillance is legal
nbcnews.com ^ | December 27, 2013 | Hasani Gittens

Posted on 12/27/2013 9:25:40 AM PST by John W

A federal judge in New York has ruled that the National Security Agency's massive collection of American citizens' telephone records is both legal and useful.

U.S. District Judge William Pauley wrote in his opinion issued Friday that the program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network.

Pauley raised the specter of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and how the phone data-collection system could have helped investigators connect the dots before the attacks occurred.

Pauley's decision appears to conflict with a ruling earlier this month by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, who granted a preliminary injunction against the collecting of phone records of two men who had challenged the program.

He said that the program likely violates the U.S. Constitution's ban on unreasonable search.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; clintonappointee; constitution; janepauley; newyork; nsa; obamunism; policestate; richardleon; rop; stasi; tyranny; waronterror; williampauley; wiretapping; yeswescan
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1 posted on 12/27/2013 9:25:40 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

Good decision.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 9:28:22 AM PST by Rapscallion (Had enough? Let me know.)
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To: Rapscallion

Good?


3 posted on 12/27/2013 9:29:25 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: John W

Yeah, it worked so well with the Boston Bombing. Why do I get the feeling this was a hand picked lib judge?


4 posted on 12/27/2013 9:30:17 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Rapscallion

So domestic spying being legal is a good decision? Seems like it violates the Bill of Rights. Therefore any decision that violates the Bill of Rights is a bad decision.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 9:30:54 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: John W

I call BS-—how would listening to all our phone calls have any effect at all on listening in on terrorists?

Do they have someone assigned to every one of us?

For the first time in my life, I no longer trust my government. We have been going downhill as far as privacy and freedom since at least the Carter years, and maybe before that.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 9:31:18 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: John W

Judge Pauley is a Clinton appointee - 1998

http://www.fjc.gov/servlet/nGetInfo?jid=2803&cid=999&ctype=na&instate=na


7 posted on 12/27/2013 9:31:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: John W

ridiculous


8 posted on 12/27/2013 9:32:02 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: John W

leftist totalitarianism continues.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 9:32:52 AM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: castlegreyskull

Not just spying. They are passing information along to law enforcement who are lying to judges and defense attorneys about its source.


10 posted on 12/27/2013 9:33:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: John W

The standard on whether something might prevent a terrorist attack is not the standard on whether something is legal.

If we killed all Muslims found in the country that might prevent a terrorist attack too. Does that make it legal?


11 posted on 12/27/2013 9:34:04 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: John W
U.S. District Judge William Pauley wrote in his opinion issued Friday that the program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network.

Laudable goal but completely irrelevant here. The issue is how does the policy jive or not with the Constitution.

12 posted on 12/27/2013 9:34:09 AM PST by plain talk
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To: driftdiver
Not just spying. They are passing information along to law enforcement who are lying to judges and defense attorneys about its source.

Feral government.

There is only one thing you can do to stop a feral dog.

13 posted on 12/27/2013 9:35:22 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Rapscallion
"Good decision."

You deserve neither liberty or security.

14 posted on 12/27/2013 9:36:53 AM PST by Godebert
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To: John W

Funny how they missed the Boston bombers and every other incident.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 9:39:05 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: John W

If this is okay then there’s no reason the government can’t require installation of video cameras in every household appliance you buy, store all the recordings in a big database, and claim they need them in order to have a computer program scan the videos for evidence of terrorism, bombmaking, facial recognition of terrorist suspects, etc.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 9:39:28 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Rapscallion

Please post rationale.


17 posted on 12/27/2013 9:40:01 AM PST by Rennes Templar (If you like your disease, you can keep it.)
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To: John W
Pauley raised the specter of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and how the phone data-collection system could have helped investigators connect the dots before the attacks occurred.

Enforcing our immigration laws would have also worked without the need to violate our right to privacy.

18 posted on 12/27/2013 9:40:18 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

the gorlick wall would have negated this ruling. (and did)


19 posted on 12/27/2013 9:41:08 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rapscallion

What the hell are you smoking?


20 posted on 12/27/2013 9:42:22 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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