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IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO END THIS WAY
ME | July 17, 2013 | swampsniper

Posted on 07/17/2013 1:40:38 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

When the Sanford, Florida PD investigated George Zimmerman 's claims of self defense all the evidence supported his claims. They handled the case exactly as they would any similar case.

When a mob appeared threatening to burn Sanford to the ground Sanford's gutless and spineless City Commissioners told the chief of police to throw Zimmerman to the mob, we don't want our windows broken or our customers scared away. The chief stood up for the law, as he was sworn to do and they fired him. They demoted the lead investigator because he would not lie for them.

The noise reached Tallhassee and more gutless spineless politicians, and they threw George Zimmerman to the mob.

Everything was right on track, George Zimmerman would be jailed until his trial, be defended by a public defender against all the power of the state, be convicted, and sent to prison. The mob would go away and everyone would soon forget George Zimmerman.

The problem is things didn't go that way. George Zimmerman found people eager to defend him, got the finest defense team in the world and won his freedom. The State is livid and the mob is enraged, justice has been done, they must have really wanted something else.

George Zimmerman was offered up as a sacrifice! If there has been any violation of civil rights in this case those violated rights have been George Zimmerman's.

I watched that trial, every single second of it. The protests are coming from those who could not have watched, they know nothing about what actually happened, what was demonstrated. They hate a man based only on gossip from the street.

The State is embarrassed, their lies didn't work so now they're telling more. If they had good sense they would just shut up!


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1 posted on 07/17/2013 1:40:38 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘GZ racially profiled TM’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 1:42:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Had the situation been handled different by Trayvon Martin, he might still be alive.
But, NO !
It DID NOT go that way.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 1:45:31 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Nobody ever claimed the cowardly politicians had any sense : )

I will gladly watch, as their careers go into permanent meltdown.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 1:45:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Reading that I get the strange feeling I have read it before.

Like, the author was Matthew, or Mark, or Luke somebody...


5 posted on 07/17/2013 1:45:56 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The angry, feral mob could have watched every second of the trial just as you did. It would not have made a difference. The angry, feral mob is still an angry, feral mob looking for any excuse to loot, pillage, rape and destroy. No amount of reason or rationality will reach this mindless, degenerate herd.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 1:46:02 PM PDT by SkiKnee
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To: Yosemitest

I have a feeling that that hypothetical conversation would

ENRAGE

any activist leftist.

Mostly because it would point out the stark contrasts in culture between the urban and the Civilized West.


7 posted on 07/17/2013 1:48:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GZ was armed and TM wasn't

Why has no one brought up the flaw here? How was Zimmerman supposed to know if Trayvon was armed or not? And would Trayvon have attacked Zimmerman if he thought Zimmerman was armed?

8 posted on 07/17/2013 1:49:14 PM PDT by grania
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
When a mob appeared threatening to burn Sanford to the ground ...

Right there is when this became directed and orchestrated by the Obama White House and DemoRat Marxists for the purpose of gun control and removal of the right of self defense, and that is the entirety since then.

9 posted on 07/17/2013 1:49:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“They hate a man based only on gossip from the street.”

Isn’t that enough? /sarc


10 posted on 07/17/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

bkmk


11 posted on 07/17/2013 1:53:12 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To your first point that GZ racially profiled TM. It wouldn’t matter even if he had done so. Laws against racial profiling only apply to governmental agencies. There is no law against private individuals profiling racially or otherwise. It is done all the time including by Jesse Jackson who once famously said, “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”


12 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:06 PM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Can’t get enough of MOM.


13 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:20 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Nail, meet hammer.

EXCELLENT!

Thank you


14 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:27 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Yosemitest

Excuse me while I ROTFLMAO for about 5 minutes. That sounds like Eddie Haskell and the security guard or something. From a completely different century.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I saw the headline and I thought it was about Western Civilization.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 1:56:35 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Now you know why gun sales are up like never before. Nobody trusts the system any more, any system.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 1:57:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s the difference between love and hate!


18 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:07 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The State is embarrassed, their lies didn't work so now they're telling more. If they had good sense they would just shut up!

If the racists in Washington, D.C. and Florida had had good sense, they'd have outgrown racism with the vast majority of Americans a long time ago.

19 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:11 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The gutless politicians of Floriduh and Washington who were wagging their tongues 16 months ago can’t seem to find them now —

There are a lot of political careers going down over this and there are others whose careers have ended before they started.


20 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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