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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.

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To: ConjunctionJunction

This isn’t a total loss, in fact it is a win. Obama and the Dems swore this wasn’t a tax, yet it only survived by SCOTUS deeming it a tax. Taxes are bad politically and Obama will be even less popular. This guarantees an Obama electoral defeat. And the fact it is deemed a tax, said tax can be repealed by the legislative branch just as it was imposed by them. SCOTUS merely kicked this back to the legislative branch like the cowards they are (5 of them). Pyrrhic victory for Obama


421 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:50 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Broker
Sickening. Time to emmigrate.

No. Time to stand and fight for your country!

422 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I just raised the Gadsden outside on my flagpole. Was considering flying old glory upside down, but cannot bear to see it (even though it might be appropriate).


423 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:03 AM PDT by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: NautiNurse; StarFan; stanz; kristinn; BufordP; Bigg Red
I'm trying to understand all of the nuances of the SCOTUS ruling... sounds like the States can opt out?

If that's the case, hubby and I MUST get the hell out of The People's Socialist Republik of Connecticut before 2014!

What a disgusting ruling, particularly by that coward Roberts.

Can't wait to hear Rush's take on this today...

424 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:08 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin: Anybody But Obama 2012)
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To: butterdezillion; kevkrom; DoughtyOne; AuH2ORepublican

Hadn’t got the vote detail before the post. I guess that with Wickard and whatever as accepted, Congress has authority to do anything now.


425 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: dfwgator

I am afraid we are going to see a second American revolution down the road.


426 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: redgolum

Nothing, the guy just isn’t a Conservative. Nice legacy for GWB.


427 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:12 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: John W

Okay, here’s my take on what needs to happen now.

THIS NEEDS TO BE REPEALED NO MATTER WHAT.

No matter what, folks. Which means there is no excuse whatsoever to not vote for Romney in four months. None. I supported Santorum, but that doesn’t matter now — only repealing this monstrosity does. To all the bigots — yes, I said bigots — who keep harping on how Mormons aren’t Christians, either decide that repealing Obamacare is more important or kindly shut the **** up. Maybe he isn’t your preferred brand of Christian, but then again I’m probably not either. I was baptized Greek Orthodox and raised Catholic, so what does that make me? It sure doesn’t make me Mormon, and it probably doesn’t make me the same as the people who keep harping on Mormonism. We have a lot of conservative Jewish FReepers, too — I can only imagine if Eric Cantor was our nominee — would the same people knocking Romney because of his Mormonism be threatening to stay home then as well?

Long screed short, if you’re contributing to the circular firing squad, check your harping, grousing, and bigotry at the door and KNOCK IT OFF. There is one and only one priority now to save the Republic, and that’s to throw out Obama and every Rat senator who *will* filibuster when we try to repeal it next year. Period. Stop being part of the ****ing problem and start being part of the solution.


428 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:32 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: SueRae

Repeal or Revolt.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN...................


429 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:04 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: John W

Today I mourn the death of Chief Justice Rehnquist.

Roberts has succumbed to Obama’s intimidation tactics. Coward.


430 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:05 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: RummyChick

Lets remember all the Dems on TV saying “It’s not a tax”.

Seems to me CONGRESS now has to rewrite it since this was sold under false pretenses.

Either way, NO ONE wants the tax increase. It looks bad, and it is, but there still may be a silver lining here. Before this ‘tax’ gets implemented, there’s an election and NO ‘congresspersons’ will campaign on “I’m gonna tax you $2000”.


431 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:07 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: vikingd00d

That is not true, as the USA declines other countries while nominally socialist still practice personal responsibility. You want to smoke go ahead, eat what you want drink what you want but you will pay the price. Our country is a racist nation moving socialist to support minorities giving them the tranny of the minority. The free riders rule this country now.


432 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: SueRae

Lyle:
The rejection of the Commerce Clause and Nec. and Proper Clause should be understood as a major blow to Congress’s authority to pass social welfare laws. Using the tax code — especially in the current political environment — to promote social welfare is going to be a very chancy proposition.

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433 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: StAnDeliver
Disagree. Calling something a tax to take away individual liberty will be the way the Libs will go in the future.

We will see how this plays out politically. Getting a SCOTUS stamp of approval could make the law more acceptable among voters.

434 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bill Buckner

It is called a monarchy or tryanny.

Which is the next phase. We are in the end days of democracy.


435 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Jane Long

One problem with Boenher’s statement. He mentions only how damaging ObamaCare is economically. He does *not* make any mention of the fundamental issue: it is unconstitutional! None of those worthless congresscritters look at issues through the prism of constitutionality.


436 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:32 AM PDT by kevao
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To: dfwgator
It shall be forevermore Chief Justice Judas.

Leni

437 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:47 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: sam_paine
Speaker Boehner: Today’s ruling underscores the urgency of repealing this harmful law in its entirety.

Repeal The 'Tax'!

438 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

>>Romney has ONE chance to get this right. He needs to say, today, that he will repeal this monstrosity immediately — in full and without exception. Give the Congressional candidates something to run on. <<

I want to know the brand name of whatever it is that you put in your coffee. Is it legal in Nevada? Romney is 3/4 Democrat, he is not going to repeal anything.


439 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: StAnDeliver
Thusly he has sent it back to the House (even to statehouses!) transmogrifed as a tax.

Doubt that will work. The bill survived under the taxation powers but it will actually be enforced as a fine.

Roberts really screwed us with this one. If he really feels this way, he should have struck down the mandate as it is and stated that the law needed to be rewritten as a tax.

440 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:09 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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