Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck
Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.
Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.
Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.
As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.
I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.
It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.
I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.
I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.
Respectfully,
Huck
Glad you’re not leaving, for what it’s worth.
I’m with you Pappy. While I believe OBL is dead and listened intently yesterday while regime talking heads regaled us with tales of watching the op in realtime, today they are busily revising and “clarifying” their stories!!
WTF!!
JC
Cmon, dude, seriously, 3 more bigs off the top of my head (like OBLolol). PS (insert hateful comment here). ;-}
I agree with you, Huck.
Well stated.
Post of the beast
Thanks
Funny how this guy was supposed to be such a bad guy yet all many seemed to care about was the political aspect of it, because it didn't occur on Bush's watch or while a Republican was in office.
Can I be honest?
The political hypocrisy is knee deep.
If this would have occurred on Bush's watch, the celebration and talking up Bush would have went on for weeks or months....years..
AMEN!!!!
I think some of that is to limit the damage in the Muslim world. The image of Bin Laden going down with guns blazing plays well in the Arab world.
God often uses selfish assholes to accomplish his goals. Even if they happen to be the President.
THe Obama COLB is a forgery.
Proven by simple pixilation analysis.
One of the Nordyke Twins COLBS was used as
the forgers template.
Its pretty bald. Even a Massachussetts TROLL could understand it.
http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-odds-are-racist/
So, since my arguments were yesterday morning - that is what we are discussing remember - any doubts or possible other scenarios thrown out for discussion before verifiable evidence is made available - and none is made available as of the writing of this very post - is nutty to you.
I see. Well, I don’t respect your point of view one bit.
But arguing further against it is clearly pointless since you are incapable of grasping your fallacies and failures to see where your need to leap to conclusions leaves you exposed to simple reliance on faith.
But if there’s no seal it CAN’T be genuine. That’s the point.
I can't help but notice that you didn't post a single word yesterday either in appreciation of the efforts of our military or in criticism of the posturing of the Administration. You just decided that rather than join in yesterday's conversations and make a positive contribution, you'd come on here and express your dismay at all the freepers who did contribute to the conversation.
You are soooo correct on that.
There is a seal. It just didn't scan. You can see traces of it on the color PDF the White House posted.
You'll recall questions were also raised about the seal on the 2007 short form. On the color flat-bed scan originally posted, you could barely make out traces of the seal, and you could barely see the issue date bleeding through from the reverse side. However, both the seal and the certification and date stamp were clearly visible in the later FactCheck.org posting, which had photographs taken with a digital camera of both sides and from various oblique angles.
All I saw was what I already described, and I was not really interested in posting a comment on those threads. I didn't have time yesterday to post my own thread, so it had to wait until today. By then, I'd had time to think about my impressions of yesterday, and so here I am.
Anyway, we're several hundred replies in on this thread, and it looks like a lot of people agree with me. I'm glad I posted this thread.
“he came out with a story so full of holes you’d think it was a golf course.”
Who cares what Obama said? Oh, wait you do. You care so much you’ll besmirch the efforts of the intelligence community and military personnel who brought OBL to justice in order for you to focus upon Obama’s ‘story’. Yeah, it’s all about Obama, isn’t it?
I’m not the one who fails to grasp reality troll.
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