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Can We Prevent a Second Civil War?
JPFO ^ | 2011 | Kirby Ferris

Posted on 04/29/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by marktwain

There are three issues that could presently trigger a Civil War in America:

* Illegal aliens. A government that refuses to protect our borders, the methodical structure of citizenship, and the rule of law, will only be tolerated for so long. America is reaching a tipping point on this issue.

* Abortion. Irreconcilable differences here. This may likely become as potent an issue as slavery was in the 1860s.

* The right to keep and bear arms - see "2A Today for The USA"

No other significant present day problems could potentially result in the “brother against brother” tragedy of a Second American Civil War.

Sooner or later, the massive invasion of America by illegal aliens will be confronted, if not by the rule of law then by either armed police officers and soldiers … or armed citizens. There are twenty million or more illegal aliens entrenched in this nation now. How many tens of millions more will it take to reach a tipping point? At what point will law enforcement agencies and/or the military begin to do the job they were sworn to do? At what point will citizens themselves be forced, by government inactivity, to confront this invasion by force of arms?

Will the liberal politicians actually allow this showdown? Is this actually the sort of crisis opportunism that Obama’s Rahm Immanuel, and other leftist cultural Marxists, relish?

As an American, and a gun owner, would you take to the street to confront this illegal alien invasion? Do you have a personal breaking point on this issue?

I won’t deal with abortion here, except to note that the anti-abortion forces have the same moral intensity and personal commitment that was demonstrated by the slavery abolitionists of the nineteenth century. We saw where that led in America.

However, there is a third possible cause of a Second American Civil War: infringement of the right to keep and bear arms.

This nation’s Second Amendment freedoms have too long been burdened with the lethargic, tunnel vision behavior of the gun owners known as “Elmer Fudds”, or, as Aaron Zelman used to call them “quackers”. This is the “good ole’ boy” type who simply doesn’t care about gun registrations, permits, regulations, or even confiscations, as long as he can keep his deer rifle or shotgun and exercise his “sportin’ rights”. This myopic fellow can be bought off for the price of a buck tag or duck license. Even Senator Chuck Schumer is a “Fudd”! “I ain’t gonna take your shotguns away, fellas!”

On the other side of the room from the Fudds is the “Cold Dead Fingers” crowd. A lot of tough talk over in that camp. A lot of arm chair patriotism and rhetorical heat. A lot of “let ‘em try to take my guns!” chest puffing. But somewhere at the core of this quite large group of gun owners is a determined minority that does really mean it.

I would assert that every single one of these very determined armed Americans has some idea, deep in his or her heart, as to what their personal “line in the sand” actually is. When it comes to this amorphous, mostly low profile, group, the hammer is cocked. These folks are getting to be known as the “Three Percenters”.

What the cultural Marxists, elitists, and authoritarians who advocate “gun control” (read "Know Thine Enemy") don’t seem to be able to grasp is the strange fact that a significant minority of human beings are willing to fight ferociously to preserve their freedoms. This irascible minority has yet to be awakened to action. But they’re sleeping with one eye open.

The attacks on the Second Amendment have, since 1934, been so gradual and incremental that the victim disarmament forces have prevailed to an amazing degree. They hear the loud complaints of gun owners, then make strategic “compromises” with other compromisers, and then, sure as day, there’s another gun regulation, permit process, limitation, restriction, tax burden, or license needed for each of us to exercise an unalienable right that, according to the American Bill of Rights, “shall not be infringed”.

Makes me think of the laughs I got as a kid when, in the Bugs Bunny cartoons, Elmer Fudd’s head turned into a big “SUCKER” when Bugs had tricked him once again. What also comes to mind is Charlie Brown and Lucy with her football, the football, that, to my knowledge, Charlie Brown was never able to kick. Only, unlike the comics, few of us are smiling about this. This could become deadly serious. Because the sneaking vermin cannot be allowed to win.

What must be obvious to any truly concerned American gun owner is that we absolutely must take EVERY action afforded us to prevent a Second American Civil War. This means that gun owners must become far more personally involved. Gun owners have to really grow fangs and learn to “snarl” in a societal and political sense. Wake up! You are the “gun lobby” these insidious liars and manipulators complain about! Remind them of that in every lawful way that you can.

Do you want to remain completely anonymous, but still help? A blank postal money order sent to GOA, SAF or JPFO works just fine, thanks.

We have to learn how to warn these gun prohibitionists off with unrelenting determination. When we gain a political victory or legal victory like the Heller or McDonald cases, we must be willing to dig into our own pockets and financially support those who truly won those victories, so that they may drive forward and win another, and another, with relentless momentum.

Political activism doesn’t need to cost much at all, especially in this day and age of email and unlimited phone calling plans. If you can’t afford to donate money to a Second Amendment organization, write the letters, send the emails, and make the phone calls in support of our gun rights. Talk to your gun owner friends and neighbors. Don’t let them remain Fudds or Quackers!

Or, when you hear “They ain’t gonna get my guns!”, ask that person how he or she is going to stop them. Don’t let this kind of chest puffing go unquestioned. Ask the arm chair warrior what he or she is doing now, today, to PREVENT that horror. If the question makes them uncomfortable it should! It won’t be Chuck Norris, Sly Stallone or Arnold coming through with minor flesh wounds, friends. A Second American Civil War will not be played out on a Hollywood set. You won’t be able to get up and leave the theater.

We need to prevent that war before it happens. How can we best do so? By preserving our right to keep and bear arms. Contribute to JPFO today and help us to protect that right. So called “gun control” must be completely destroyed. We must restore the pre-1934 state of affairs to America. Join JPFO today.

Frequent JPFO contributor and strategist, Kirby Ferris collaborated intensively with Aaron Zelman over the last two years. Ferris is now the Public Affairs Director of JPFO.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloat; civilwar; constitution; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; donttreadonme; govtabuse; gun; illegal; insurrection; prepping; stockpilesong; taxes; tyranny
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To: marktwain

We conservatives have no more power to stop a second civil war than we did to stop the war on Muslin terrorism. You cannot stop conflict when you’re already being attacked. What “is”...”IS”...


41 posted on 04/29/2011 9:46:48 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: marktwain

“If you try to take our firearms, we will kill you.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2683593/posts


42 posted on 04/29/2011 9:47:37 AM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: NTHockey
Just watched “V for Vengeance” for about the twentieth time. Although it portrays the Conservatives as the evil ones; it still, in Hollywood’s simplistic way, the power of the individual.

I find that to be an interesting move also.

Setting aside the window dressing of Hollywood trying to demonize Conservatives once again, consider how much the villains resemble the Left of today.

Their tactics and actions are much more indicative of the Left than of the right.

43 posted on 04/29/2011 9:49:36 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: marktwain

44 posted on 04/29/2011 9:51:47 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; ClearCase_guy

The problem with this type of thinking is that despite a lot of blustery talk, who would know who to shoot? There are no clear boundaries, no enemy territory. You certainly can’t separate them as blue state/red state, as often the difference between them is just a few percentage points.

On the old Townhall forum, there was a nutbag who talked about dragging liberal soccer mom’s out of SUV’s and ending them on the spot, and that’s obviously not the answer even if soccer were truly a fair test of liberalism, which it is not.

So far, I’ve yet to see a decent explanation of who would be the targets in this civil war that some claim that they want.


45 posted on 04/29/2011 9:54:38 AM PDT by Melas
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To: NTHockey

Vendetta man, Vendetta not vengeance.


46 posted on 04/29/2011 9:55:48 AM PDT by Melas
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To: MrB

The media useful idiots will be the first to go, I’ll bet.


47 posted on 04/29/2011 9:56:48 AM PDT by pingman (You can lead a liberal to logic, but you can't make them think.)
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To: marktwain

The real question is, how many will take a stand? I fear, not enough.


48 posted on 04/29/2011 9:57:08 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

article ping


49 posted on 04/29/2011 10:00:51 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Melas

“Unintended Consequences” by John Ross is an interesting book.


50 posted on 04/29/2011 10:02:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: marktwain

I just don’t see anything happening anytime soon. Sure we get upset, but thats bc we follow what’s going on. The left has refined their destruction skills to perfection. It’s never one big event. It’s small events that get absolutely no coverage. 75% of America doesn’t even know what’s going on. So any uprising would be squashed and reported as the lunatic fringe.

Then on the other side, unless there is a massive shift in ideology, Congress will never strip welfare and other expenditures like it. They should, but they won’t.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it happening any time soon.


51 posted on 04/29/2011 10:02:51 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: redgolum
The real question is, how many will take a stand? I fear, not enough.

Over a thousand people showed up in Roswell, NM last night to protest some damn lizzard, that the EPA wants to call endangered and use to stop drilling.

2 weeks ago in the Gila over a thousand showed up to protest against closing roads in the national parks.........people have had enough and out here they are armed.

52 posted on 04/29/2011 10:02:51 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: marktwain

Sure, more sports and more.

Keep ‘em diverted and thinking like 15-year-olds.


53 posted on 04/29/2011 10:03:01 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: chickadee

My daughter and brother whose forced relationship with unions will not see them taking up arms to defend them, nor do they support their tactics. There are many Americans that hate the unions but must belong to one in order to keep their job.


54 posted on 04/29/2011 10:03:35 AM PDT by lucky american (I'm tired.)
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To: Melas
If you don't know the "who", you haven't been paying attention to local and/or National politics.

Here's a hint: Random foot soldier and soccer moms ain't it.

55 posted on 04/29/2011 10:04:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: marktwain

IF there were a second civil war, it would be nothing by the first. It will not be brother shooting at brother or a fight for territory. Instead it will be a war of boycott, strike, economic ‘hacking’, and message manipulation. You will see an economic war where a ‘black market’ economy wages war against the economic players who still give into the greater and greater burden. You will have the producers ‘drop out’ of the system and only work with each other, not contributing back to the system. It will be a ‘Cold War’, not a hot war.

But, I don’t think there will be anything like it. As soon as things get heated, the masses will be appeased with a new season of American Idol and those who are more prone to action will be kept busy surviving- paying bills, taking care of their family, and chasing rabbits of conspiracies they think are important but really keeps them distracted.


57 posted on 04/29/2011 10:08:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: lucky american

There are many union member sunhappily forced into that role. But the “true believers” in the union mob are just a hair’s breadth away from converting their thuggish tactics into real violence. Scott Walker’s plan to remove the union boot from the necks of public workers is our best hope at averting that prospect.


58 posted on 04/29/2011 10:08:30 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: marktwain

I believe the Obamunists, especially people like Holder and other radicals Obama has installed as his henchmen, would love to see an uprising against government policy, and in fact are no doubt prepared for it if not actively trying to promote it.

They would be thrilled to have a reason to bring the military and police might of the government down on non-liberals.

You can bet that they already have a plan to wrap up the “”Bitter Clingers”, Preppers, Militias and the Tea Party.

They will confiscate weapons, shut down gun and ammo sales and take control of the energy and food industries. They will see that government money and power are used to favor their supporters and punish their detractors.

At the first sign of organized rebellion Obama would declare an economic and military emergency, postpone elections and use the situation to wipe out his critics and complete his socialization and nationalization of the country.

Remember their motto:

“You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”


59 posted on 04/29/2011 10:11:16 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: marktwain

Is it ironic that most of the left is on the wrong side of all those issues?

I see a little cross over on each, but generally the lefties I know are on the wrong side of each of them or 2 out of 3.


60 posted on 04/29/2011 10:11:22 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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