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Can We Prevent a Second Civil War?
JPFO ^ | 2011 | Kirby Ferris

Posted on 04/29/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by marktwain

There are three issues that could presently trigger a Civil War in America:

* Illegal aliens. A government that refuses to protect our borders, the methodical structure of citizenship, and the rule of law, will only be tolerated for so long. America is reaching a tipping point on this issue.

* Abortion. Irreconcilable differences here. This may likely become as potent an issue as slavery was in the 1860s.

* The right to keep and bear arms - see "2A Today for The USA"

No other significant present day problems could potentially result in the “brother against brother” tragedy of a Second American Civil War.

Sooner or later, the massive invasion of America by illegal aliens will be confronted, if not by the rule of law then by either armed police officers and soldiers … or armed citizens. There are twenty million or more illegal aliens entrenched in this nation now. How many tens of millions more will it take to reach a tipping point? At what point will law enforcement agencies and/or the military begin to do the job they were sworn to do? At what point will citizens themselves be forced, by government inactivity, to confront this invasion by force of arms?

Will the liberal politicians actually allow this showdown? Is this actually the sort of crisis opportunism that Obama’s Rahm Immanuel, and other leftist cultural Marxists, relish?

As an American, and a gun owner, would you take to the street to confront this illegal alien invasion? Do you have a personal breaking point on this issue?

I won’t deal with abortion here, except to note that the anti-abortion forces have the same moral intensity and personal commitment that was demonstrated by the slavery abolitionists of the nineteenth century. We saw where that led in America.

However, there is a third possible cause of a Second American Civil War: infringement of the right to keep and bear arms.

This nation’s Second Amendment freedoms have too long been burdened with the lethargic, tunnel vision behavior of the gun owners known as “Elmer Fudds”, or, as Aaron Zelman used to call them “quackers”. This is the “good ole’ boy” type who simply doesn’t care about gun registrations, permits, regulations, or even confiscations, as long as he can keep his deer rifle or shotgun and exercise his “sportin’ rights”. This myopic fellow can be bought off for the price of a buck tag or duck license. Even Senator Chuck Schumer is a “Fudd”! “I ain’t gonna take your shotguns away, fellas!”

On the other side of the room from the Fudds is the “Cold Dead Fingers” crowd. A lot of tough talk over in that camp. A lot of arm chair patriotism and rhetorical heat. A lot of “let ‘em try to take my guns!” chest puffing. But somewhere at the core of this quite large group of gun owners is a determined minority that does really mean it.

I would assert that every single one of these very determined armed Americans has some idea, deep in his or her heart, as to what their personal “line in the sand” actually is. When it comes to this amorphous, mostly low profile, group, the hammer is cocked. These folks are getting to be known as the “Three Percenters”.

What the cultural Marxists, elitists, and authoritarians who advocate “gun control” (read "Know Thine Enemy") don’t seem to be able to grasp is the strange fact that a significant minority of human beings are willing to fight ferociously to preserve their freedoms. This irascible minority has yet to be awakened to action. But they’re sleeping with one eye open.

The attacks on the Second Amendment have, since 1934, been so gradual and incremental that the victim disarmament forces have prevailed to an amazing degree. They hear the loud complaints of gun owners, then make strategic “compromises” with other compromisers, and then, sure as day, there’s another gun regulation, permit process, limitation, restriction, tax burden, or license needed for each of us to exercise an unalienable right that, according to the American Bill of Rights, “shall not be infringed”.

Makes me think of the laughs I got as a kid when, in the Bugs Bunny cartoons, Elmer Fudd’s head turned into a big “SUCKER” when Bugs had tricked him once again. What also comes to mind is Charlie Brown and Lucy with her football, the football, that, to my knowledge, Charlie Brown was never able to kick. Only, unlike the comics, few of us are smiling about this. This could become deadly serious. Because the sneaking vermin cannot be allowed to win.

What must be obvious to any truly concerned American gun owner is that we absolutely must take EVERY action afforded us to prevent a Second American Civil War. This means that gun owners must become far more personally involved. Gun owners have to really grow fangs and learn to “snarl” in a societal and political sense. Wake up! You are the “gun lobby” these insidious liars and manipulators complain about! Remind them of that in every lawful way that you can.

Do you want to remain completely anonymous, but still help? A blank postal money order sent to GOA, SAF or JPFO works just fine, thanks.

We have to learn how to warn these gun prohibitionists off with unrelenting determination. When we gain a political victory or legal victory like the Heller or McDonald cases, we must be willing to dig into our own pockets and financially support those who truly won those victories, so that they may drive forward and win another, and another, with relentless momentum.

Political activism doesn’t need to cost much at all, especially in this day and age of email and unlimited phone calling plans. If you can’t afford to donate money to a Second Amendment organization, write the letters, send the emails, and make the phone calls in support of our gun rights. Talk to your gun owner friends and neighbors. Don’t let them remain Fudds or Quackers!

Or, when you hear “They ain’t gonna get my guns!”, ask that person how he or she is going to stop them. Don’t let this kind of chest puffing go unquestioned. Ask the arm chair warrior what he or she is doing now, today, to PREVENT that horror. If the question makes them uncomfortable it should! It won’t be Chuck Norris, Sly Stallone or Arnold coming through with minor flesh wounds, friends. A Second American Civil War will not be played out on a Hollywood set. You won’t be able to get up and leave the theater.

We need to prevent that war before it happens. How can we best do so? By preserving our right to keep and bear arms. Contribute to JPFO today and help us to protect that right. So called “gun control” must be completely destroyed. We must restore the pre-1934 state of affairs to America. Join JPFO today.

Frequent JPFO contributor and strategist, Kirby Ferris collaborated intensively with Aaron Zelman over the last two years. Ferris is now the Public Affairs Director of JPFO.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloat; civilwar; constitution; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; donttreadonme; govtabuse; gun; illegal; insurrection; prepping; stockpilesong; taxes; tyranny
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To: GOPsterinMA

The “Blues” will kill themselves off anyway;....


That’s right, they will self destruct. Thus, the big wall to keep them out. Or, they’ll build their own Berlin Wall. After all, their elite wouldn’t want any of their slaves to escape the workers paradise, would they. The SEIU could run the enforcement.


261 posted on 04/30/2011 10:44:15 PM PDT by unkus
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To: marktwain
No other significant present day problems could potentially result in the “brother against brother” tragedy of a Second American Civil War.

I thin the collapse of the US dollar will be the trigger. The Preppers will be hunted and stalked by the unprepared. Violence in astounding proportion will be the norm. Hunger and inflation will trigger massive unrest and violence...

262 posted on 04/30/2011 10:58:24 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: LibsRJerks
Do you really feel our military and police forces would “put down” patriots? I don’t think so ...I feel many of them would step into the role of patriots themselves.

You mean the coppers with the shaved heads, tattoos, size 46 waists and public pensions? Those coppers who are supposed to be eager to join the outlawed Patriots? Can't wait to see it happen!

263 posted on 04/30/2011 11:00:58 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: gleneagle
Our civil war was started because of tarriffs[sic] and taxes.

Have you ever read any US history? None of the 1860-1 secessionists talked about tariffs or taxes. What tariffs? What taxes? You have no idea, do you? You are just repeating racist slogans that seem attractive.

A good starting place is A Patriots History of the US by Freeper LS.

264 posted on 05/01/2011 12:21:14 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

Expel states? That’s a new one. I like the idea.

Vermont could join Canada. Compared to Quebec though they are a bastion of sanity.


265 posted on 05/01/2011 1:09:34 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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PFLR


266 posted on 05/01/2011 5:59:06 AM PDT by Sparky21555
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To: MrB

>>And the media will spin it as

When the war starts, the liberal media/propaganda machine gets put up against the wall first. They’ve been the enemy of freedom for 40 years.


267 posted on 05/01/2011 5:59:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: unkus

Take the incentives out of it. Pass a law requiring a person have US citizenship for 18 years before voting in any US election.


268 posted on 05/01/2011 6:51:34 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: bopdowah

It would be best if we could work out our problems through debate and at the ballot box.

That is the ideal situation, however that is how adults handle it. This is from a former Henry Jackson Democrat. However we are now dealing with an opposition of “children” who view physical assault and destruction of property as legitimate forms of political expression. I live in the Twin Cities area and saw first hand the “political free expression” at RNC 2008. There is no reasoning with these people. Even if their numbers ge fewer as the scales fall from some eyes and the Kool-Aid wears off, the true believers will get even more rabid, pumped up by the likes of Ed Schultz and Mike Malloy - types that actually encourage the SEIU thugs, and turn around and accuse the conservative talkers of doing the same, while saying “Who? Me?”.
We are in the cold war phase of the CW2. It will go hot when the Far Left sees its perceived support dwindle. They will not accept defeat. If the Far Left can not dominate, they are compelled to annihilate,


269 posted on 05/01/2011 7:07:08 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: marktwain

IMO there will be nothing that will stop a new civil war.

At this point in time, there is only 45% of the population supporting 55% of the freeloaders.

At some point the 45% crowd will pull a Howard Beale and stand up yelling “I’M MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”

Then there is the vile left who say that those of us on the right deserve to die (like in the recent postings about the tornados on ‘Think Progress’).


270 posted on 05/01/2011 7:09:41 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; unkus
The media is definitely the enemy. However, we need to cut the head off of the REAL enemy.

The IRS.

271 posted on 05/01/2011 7:34:27 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: marktwain

I wouldn’t send a *blank* MO. I’d make it out to JPFO,
minimally.


272 posted on 05/01/2011 7:49:38 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: marktwain

http://idiots.dunedain.net/a-weak-people/

In this arena one observes the previously ‘free-range’ people, the American homesteaders, struggling to adapt to their life gravitating in the same direction as the mechanized cattle industry, not realizing that the dictum “do unto others” has always related also to the animals around them. Neither die with or from a surfeit of artificial hormones, they simply cease to live in a meaningful way. Moreover, “resistance” is primarily a function of debates over cosmetics. Given this context, it is surprising they fight for the word or even discuss fighting for ‘marriage,’ a concept they have abandoned in every meaningful sense, just as they fight for “life” for those who, by virtue of physical infirmity or terrible situation will never have a “life” in any sense more than a simple binary assertion.


273 posted on 05/01/2011 7:52:07 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: skeeter

When the government money stops, literal expropriation
may be in the cards. “Squid” at Protein Wisdom not too
long ago commented that he thinks all this eat the rich
agitprop isn’t so much about the tax code as it is about
making it OK to steal stuff after the bottom drops out.


274 posted on 05/01/2011 7:53:27 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: chickadee
Including most significantly, the police unions. "Subotai Bahadur" a former police sgt, commenting at The Belmont Club's "Wisconsin" post 03/2011: Much of law enforcement has turned on the rule of law. Those LEOs in Wisconsin who violated their oaths have indeed "crossed the Rubicon" .... He comments at other sites also.
To those of you in NYC, the near-mutiny of the NYPD after being told to stand down in August 1991 in Crown Heights was 20 years ago now, meaning that anyone on the force then has in all likelihood retired. Think about that.

275 posted on 05/01/2011 8:02:35 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: marktwain

Wasn’t there an old Pravda report (Russian economist) that described a scenario of he US breaking into smaller nations with varying degrees of capitalism?


276 posted on 05/01/2011 8:14:16 AM PDT by dmam2011
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To: DuncanWaring

Off the top of my head I can think of two men in prison
for defending themselves in a night time home invasion
conducted by police.


277 posted on 05/01/2011 8:22:14 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: marktwain; Noumenon; hosepipe; hellinahandcart; Carry_Okie; Jeff Head; Joe Brower

The author missed some.

Healthcare. Medicare. Medicaid. Social Insecurity.

The nation has divided between producers and parasites. The parasites have reached a critical mass.

I saw a poll this morning that 63% of the population favors raising taxes on people making 200k+ to help fix medicare.

We ain’t gonna survive if this is actually true.


278 posted on 05/01/2011 8:23:25 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: sauropod

Bflr


279 posted on 05/01/2011 8:46:21 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Travis McGee
As Neil Boortz calls them, “the moocher class.”

They are at least 47% now and growing—paid no federal taxes at all.

I've heard the term, "Free Sh!t Army," used to describe the entitled classes. It's as apt a description as any other, I think. In any case, it doesn't look good for what's left of our Constitutional Republic, does it?

280 posted on 05/01/2011 8:54:32 AM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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