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Army Doc: Deployment Orders Illegal Without Pres. Obama's Birth Records
7NEWS ^ | December 14, 2010 | Deb Stanley,

Posted on 12/14/2010 6:12:11 AM PST by george76

FORT MEADE, Md. -- A military court was set to hear the case Tuesday of an Army doctor charged with refusing to deploy to Afghanistan because he says he doubts whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and therefore questions his eligibility to be commander in chief.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, an 18-year Army veteran from Greeley, disobeyed orders to report earlier this year to Fort Campbell in Kentucky to prepare for deployment, saying he believed the orders were illegal.

In videos posted on YouTube, Lakin aligned himself with so-called "birthers" who question whether Obama is a natural-born citizen as the U.S. Constitution requires for presidents.

Lakin said in the videos that any reasonable person looking at available evidence would have questions about Obama's eligibility to be president and that he had "no choice" but to disobey orders. Lakin said he would "gladly deploy" if Obama's original birth certificate were released and proved authentic.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bannanarepublic; barack; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; eligibility; illegalorder; injustice; kangaroocourt; lakin; longform; msm; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; obamabirthtruthers; soros; spookydude; terrencelakin
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To: Non-Sequitur
Because Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to the charges Lakin was facing.

Begging the Question Logical Fallacy

The question is did Lakin refuse to disobey the lawful orders of three superior officers. Why he did it isn't important.

Why he did it is because he thinks the orders might be illegal. To disallow the "why" argument is to disallow his defense, questioning the legality of the orders.

Also, to disallow the "why" is a result of Begging the Question, assuming the orders are legal.

61 posted on 12/14/2010 11:45:49 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: pissant

I doubt it..

Have you seen John F..ing Kerry’s war records?
(again, he claims to have torched civilian homes/huts)
Caught in an ABSOLUTE LIE when he claimed Admiral Zumwalt presented the Silver Star to him-Kerry did not realize the Admiral was still alive and smacked John good.
Seen Kerry’s school records?- claims he let a reporter look at them ...

Al gore- where do we start.. any war records?- quick, how
many colleges was he kicked out of? (Ans=2)seen
his college transcript?

Bubba- he left college in England.. right.. he was expelled
and pleaded guilty to rape- any records?

Hillary- where do we start...

If you are hoping for ANY American Newspaper to Release
a leftisit/communist “records- you are dreaming) We needed
Congressman and Senators to have challenged Barack-hussein
long before now- they allowed this Communist to become president- we’re screwed


62 posted on 12/14/2010 11:58:23 AM PST by mj1234
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To: george76

This man’s life is not worth $10 to the One.


63 posted on 12/14/2010 12:18:58 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: savedbygrace
Begging the Question Logical Fallacy

No, pointing out reality.

Why he did it is because he thinks the orders might be illegal. To disallow the "why" argument is to disallow his defense, questioning the legality of the orders.

OK, so he was free to produce any evidence supporting his claim that the orders of Colonel Robert, Colonel McHugh, and Lieutenant Colonel Judd were illegal. But Obama is irrelevant to that.

Also, to disallow the "why" is a result of Begging the Question, assuming the orders are legal.

Why would the orders of these three superior officers not be?

64 posted on 12/14/2010 12:38:26 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Court martial starts today. I don’t expect it’ll last long.

We'll all be looking forward to your celebratory posts when the scumbag Obama's refusal to release his bona fides results in the fall of an honorable man.

You and Obama have much in common.

65 posted on 12/14/2010 12:41:14 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Because an officer may not enforce an unlawful order. Just because his superiors agreed to issue the order to save their cowardly careers does not make the order lawful.

And why were the orders of Colonel Roberts, Colonel McHugh, and Lieutenant Colonel Judd unlawful?

66 posted on 12/14/2010 12:42:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: wastedyears

“..I won’t be one of those sitting on the fence...”

Nor I, brother. I’ll be in the fighting hole next to yours.


67 posted on 12/14/2010 12:43:45 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Manly Warrior

I know that and would say that his actual birth certificate is absolute proof that he is not eligible, the COLB is and has always been an abstract copy which does not meet the burden of proof.


68 posted on 12/14/2010 12:45:05 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: Beckwith
We'll all be looking forward to your celebratory posts when the scumbag Obama's refusal to release his bona fides results in the fall of an honorable man.

Lakin's fall is of his own making. I neither mourn it or celebrate it. But at the end of the day I have no more sympathy for him than I do for Ehren Watada or Yolanda Huet-Vaughn or Michael New or anyone else who feels that they can pick and choose what lawful orders they will follow.

You and Obama have much in common.

It's nice to see that your streak of inaccurate posts is intact.

69 posted on 12/14/2010 12:45:51 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
How would evidence concerning Obama's birthplace exonerate Lakin from failure to obey the lawful orders of three superior officers?

What evidence?

This is the second time in this thread that you have referred to "evidence." The Obot judge in charge of this kangaroo court won't allow any.

You are as deceptive as your hero Obama.

70 posted on 12/14/2010 12:45:57 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: xzins
My favorite scenario is that a Republican House refuses to accept Obama’s credentials for a 2d run for office.

It's up to the states.
71 posted on 12/14/2010 12:47:11 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It's nice to see that your streak of inaccurate posts is intact.

Like your constant reference to evidence.

And of course you'll celebrate.
72 posted on 12/14/2010 12:51:20 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: george76; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


73 posted on 12/14/2010 12:57:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: NFHale

I won’t be in a hole either. :)


74 posted on 12/14/2010 12:58:45 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

With those replies, you’ve proven my points. Thank you.


76 posted on 12/14/2010 1:30:21 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Beckwith
And of course you'll celebrate.

Wrong again.

77 posted on 12/14/2010 1:32:18 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Beckwith
What evidence?

That's a question for a whole different thread.

This is the second time in this thread that you have referred to "evidence." The Obot judge in charge of this kangaroo court won't allow any.

And even if Colonel Lind had allowed it, how would it have exonerated Lakin from refusing to obey the lawful orders of three of his superior officers? It's a simple question to answer. Have at it.

You are as deceptive as your hero Obama.

You seem to be as befuddled as your heroine Taitz sometimes.

78 posted on 12/14/2010 1:46:26 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: savedbygrace
With those replies, you’ve proven my points. Thank you.

You had points???

79 posted on 12/14/2010 1:47:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: wastedyears

Well, let’s say I’ll have yer six, or I’ll take point and you have my six, howzzat, good brother?


80 posted on 12/14/2010 1:50:34 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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