Posted on 10/30/2010 2:12:14 PM PDT by pinochet
I met a Native American school teacher in Oklahoma last month, and we had a fascinating discussion about religion. He told me that many Native Americans are abandoning Christianity, and are turning to the religions of their ancestors. In fact, Native American religions have become quite fashionable among many whites in the New Age movement.
He also noted that many Indians consider white Christians to be worse than Muslims. He feels that American Indians were treated much worse, than Muslim nations have historically treated their Dhimmi minorities. He was angered by the fact that the US government had historically forced Indian Children to attend Christian boarding schools, where, he claims, they were taught to hate their culture and accept the white man's religion.
According to him, the historical mistreatment of American Indians proves to him that Christianity is a false religion. He sarcastically added that, if the past treatment of Indians in America is an example of "Christian love", it terrifies him to think of what white Christians would have done to the Indians, if they were motivated by "Christian hate". What can white Christians do, to bring an end to this anger and bitterness, that many American Indians seem to harbor?
Well history records that the heathen feather Indians were well practiced in:
1. Savagery
2. Slavery
3. Rape
4. Pillaging
5. Scalping
6. Genocide
7. Geriatricide
8. And Cannibalism
Bringing God’s Word to these people could only help those that would listen and heed the teachings.
Besides we won, you lost, shut up and deal the cards.
I’m 100% native. I was born in Florida!
It was inevitable that the "native people" here would lose their dominance, no matter who had traversed the oceans, in any number, with intent to stay. The harsh reality was that various tribal groupings, based on neolithic hunter gatherer frameworks had neither sufficient manpower, nor technology to defend what they were holding from any outside group who possessed superior technology, and the concomitant increased manpower accompanying said technology.
Had the Black Death truly "depopulated" Europe, making it a veritable ghost continent, the colonizers of North America could have been Islamics, where the native people would have been faced with the stark choice, as stated earlier in the thread, of submit to Islam, and being Arabicized, or be exterminated. If it had come from the west, from China, well, the more recent model of Tibet gives us the inevitable outcome. In short, it did not matter who it was that 'discovered' them, the outcome would not have been any other than their displacement as the dominant culture.
The fact that it was a culture where Christian principles held some sway, even if only partially, allowed some remnants of the native cultures to survive...
the infowarrior
Excellent point concerning the result had Europe been depopulated.
a thoughtful reply, thank you.
This is nothing new. Radical left indians have been saying this forever. This is the same theme of anti-white and anti-Christian doctrines within all the “diversity” minority race tribes of the left. They hate white Christians...blah blah blah.
But I think this appears to be the season of Christians falling away from the faith, especially young people who are dabbling in the occult and have taken up the mantle of hating and ridiculing Jesus and Christians. They have plenty of excuses for doing this and none of it is real; it is all distortions and tricks. We had the liberal elite orchestrate a fad like this in the 70’s too.
There is not much you can do about it other than reach out to them with the gospel. The Left’s tribal hatreds and the tit for tat hate have no justification in Christianity or in the US. It is a totally one sided view of historty and guess which side is ommitted.
The last thing you want to do is go wobbly on your fellow Christians and Jesus (blame Christians for this cultural wave of rejecting Jesus) in the face of such hate and ignorance. Don’t give the slander any power. Many ministers, dismayed by the hatred, are blaming the Christians who have not turned away from Jesus. This is another lie or trick for Christian leaders to navigate right now.
“Many leftists consider Christians to be worse than Muslims.”
Even the guy in the White House considers Christians to be worse than Muslims. The Bible warns Christians that they’ll not be popular and it’ll be a rocky road for them to follow Christ.
Re the Indians: In the ‘50s and ‘60s, our church supported a couple of reservations supplying most of what they needed. Christians always are the most generous and kindest group, yet are condemned the most, sadly. It is what it is.
Good for you! Thanks for the consciousness-raising! :)
“I’ll only go to businesses run by white people or big corps.”
Sounds like a plan!
Yet Christainity is growing in places such as in Africa, Asia, and Latin America, the global south.
Are there really any native Americans left? Haven’t they all bred across the lines?
Pray. Anger and bitterness isn't something that can be healed from the outside. It has to be a work of the Holy Spirit. Satan uses many things to blind people to the truth. The job of the Christian is to spread the Gospel, what a person does with it, is their choice. Prayer, prayer and more prayer.
As an aside, I've run into this bitterness. My son, a toe head, mentioned to a Cherokee girl in his class that one of his ancestors was Cherokee. Her reply: "White Indians don't get any of the money." He was trying to find common ground to build a friendship. Obviously, eight year-olds don't come up with this kind of attitude toward others on their own. This bitterness is something that's passed from one generation to the next.
The “American Indian” should look up what Muslims did to real Indians.
The “American Indian” should look up what Muslims did to real Indians.
However, it isn't us who are better, nor our consideration of whom is better that matters.
What matters is whom God finds to have had perfect Justice applied in Perfect Righteousness, at the Final Judgment, so that some might be found righteous for an eternal fellowship with God the Father.
It isn't our righteousness, but our faith in Him that is found to be righteous. Without the object of our faith being in something which God finds to be righteous, we have no hope.
The weakness of Islam and pagan beliefs isn't based upon how they attempt to perform good, but in their intrinsic denial of Perfect Justice. When they deny God and His Perfect Justice, and then attempt to substitute a counterfeit righteousness by their standard, instead of Divine standards, they fundamentally have excluded themselves from His inherent righteousness.
He had one particular callback I accompanied him on...the tenant was complaining that the linoleum in the bath was coming up.
The problem, of course, was that it was constantly wet...because the guy had cut a hole in the bathroom wall so his horse could drink out of the bathtub.
Cheers!
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