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Some American Indians Consider Christians To Be Worse Than Muslims
10/30/2010 | Pinochet

Posted on 10/30/2010 2:12:14 PM PDT by pinochet

I met a Native American school teacher in Oklahoma last month, and we had a fascinating discussion about religion. He told me that many Native Americans are abandoning Christianity, and are turning to the religions of their ancestors. In fact, Native American religions have become quite fashionable among many whites in the New Age movement.

He also noted that many Indians consider white Christians to be worse than Muslims. He feels that American Indians were treated much worse, than Muslim nations have historically treated their Dhimmi minorities. He was angered by the fact that the US government had historically forced Indian Children to attend Christian boarding schools, where, he claims, they were taught to hate their culture and accept the white man's religion.

According to him, the historical mistreatment of American Indians proves to him that Christianity is a false religion. He sarcastically added that, if the past treatment of Indians in America is an example of "Christian love", it terrifies him to think of what white Christians would have done to the Indians, if they were motivated by "Christian hate". What can white Christians do, to bring an end to this anger and bitterness, that many American Indians seem to harbor?


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To: pinochet

Didn’t realize you wrote this. So HOW and WHY did the topic of race come up? This is a racist hit piece, IMO.


21 posted on 10/30/2010 2:30:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: pinochet

If they wonder why they might accept Christianity, they may want to first consider the Gospel.

Christianity isn’t simply a faith that treats others nicely.

It’s how God provides for man to have fellowship with God.

No other “comparative religion” provides that access.


22 posted on 10/30/2010 2:30:09 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: gitmogrunt

I was trying to put together a reply, but your post said it all.


23 posted on 10/30/2010 2:30:24 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: pinochet

This lady, an atheist, thinks that all Muslims should convert to Christianity because Christian are much better.

She has a lot experience with Muslims.

http://www.theahafoundation.org/


24 posted on 10/30/2010 2:30:55 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: pinochet
You start a thread against whites and then hide. Your problem isn't against Christianity - it's against whites.

What can white Christians do, to bring an end to this anger and bitterness, that many American Indians seem to harbor?

Christians can't do anything for someone else's racism, anger and bitterness - that's something one brings on themselves. And why haven't you addressed black Christians?

But what can a FReeper do? Tell you to get lost and take your hate with you.
25 posted on 10/30/2010 2:39:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Niuhuru

Niuhuru, that is not exactly true. They fought one another, just as the european tribes fought one another before they formed countries, then countries fought countries. Man is one of the greatest hunter in the world.
He is the only animal to take his lunch when he goes hunting. All of the clap-trap about natives crying about being mistreated is just that clap-trap. There are whiners in every walk of life.


26 posted on 10/30/2010 2:39:41 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: pinochet
He feels that American Indians were treated much worse...

As a Christian I share his pain. I have a great amount of resentment and unbridled anger towards Italians because of the way the Romans treated my brothers and sisters ~2000 years ago.

</sarcasm>

27 posted on 10/30/2010 2:40:41 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: pinochet

Is this a vanity with you speaking, or is there a link? Are you the guy in OK?


28 posted on 10/30/2010 2:41:43 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Silentgypsy
I’m 1/8 native american, and I was treated with great hostility by Navajos. Not certain re: rationale, but Blackfoot and Navajos seem very nasty.

That's the half-breed thing rearing it's head... Regarding Christianity, I have pretty good relations with Cheyenne, Blackfoot, Salish-Kootenai, and Gros Ventre peoples, and at least here, there are no troubles... Though my adherence to mainstream Christianity is somewhat eclectic, to be fair.

29 posted on 10/30/2010 2:42:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: y'all

Just another wave of the - “I hate Christ” - ‘send me money’ - and ‘’’shtup what ever you want’’’ crowd.


30 posted on 10/30/2010 2:42:35 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: dhs12345
This lady, an atheist, thinks that all Muslims should convert to Christianity because Christian are much better.

As an agnostic, I completely agree that Christianity has a positive influence in society while Islam is contrary to a free and open society.

31 posted on 10/30/2010 2:42:38 PM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: pinochet

They kept asking him why they should accept Christianity - a religion that white Europeans were themselves rejecting. Does Christianity have a future in Europe, and in the West?

It’s called Europe is fading out. The real question is, “Does Europe have a future?” Unless it changes, it won’t have much of a future at all. It will either be transformed into an Islamic society, or will simply become so depopulated that we could see a re-run of the Mideval Time Period, with Europe run by feudalistic societies following the collapse of the larger central governments. Both are possibilities, but God have mercy on whomever has to endure either of those possible futures.


32 posted on 10/30/2010 2:44:32 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: pinochet

Many, if not most tribes of American aborigines practiced cannibalism at one time or another. Do they want to go back to that too?


33 posted on 10/30/2010 2:47:58 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: pinochet

Christianity has a future for every human being born today. It’s up to man to either accept or deny what God has provided him.

I have news for the pagan who considers Christianity worse than Islam or any other religious system. Some of the most heinous acts ever committed have been committed by Christian believers acting on their own, out of fellowship with God. That doesn’t change what He has provided and how we can continue through faith in Him, without lapsing into things other than what He has provided. That is only available it what is provided by God through Christ.


34 posted on 10/30/2010 2:48:12 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe that graphic of a shaman is from a prehistoric European cave painting.

this article is a hit piece indeed. Unnamed sources and unattributed quotes, which means the writer made it all up.

People in general know very little about the way of life of native americans before the arrival of Europeans and it was in general quite rigorous and also violent.

It was an extremely hard life. Starvation was always at one’s elbow. torture and slaughter of enemy women and children were the norm. Some children were taken captive after their parents were killed. Look up Crow Creek Massacre on Wikipedia. This along with lice, fleas, skin infections, etc.

The romantic view of native people is untenable. there were many wonderful things about the various cultures but a clash between Europeans and the native people was inevitable. A tragedy. but liberals are incapable of nuanced thought.


35 posted on 10/30/2010 2:51:11 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: pinochet

Christianity has a future for every human being born today. It’s up to man to either accept or deny what God has provided him.

I have news for the pagan who considers Christianity worse than Islam or any other religious system. Some of the most heinous acts ever committed have been committed by Christian believers acting on their own, out of fellowship with God. That doesn’t change what He has provided and how we can continue through faith in Him, without lapsing into things other than what He has provided. That is only available it what is provided by God through Christ.


36 posted on 10/30/2010 2:52:25 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Niuhuru
I know some that refuse to carry or handle a twenty dollar bill because President Andrew Jackson is on it. (Of course they accept this denomination in their casino's...) Their schools teach a very different history than what I learned in school. You may want to look at the Interior departments budget as they give the indians billions each year, additionally the navy provides them their free health care.
37 posted on 10/30/2010 2:53:50 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (Those who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it. Elections have consequences.)
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To: mac_truck
Did this American Indian acknowlege the bloodthirsty nature of his own ancestors as a contributing factor to their eventual mistreatment at the hands of the US government?

Silly whitey. Everyone knows that all injuns lived in perfect peace and harmony with one another until the evil whiteys, lead by none other than George W. Bush himself (being an evil whitey, he can travel back in time).

38 posted on 10/30/2010 2:55:06 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
"He also noted that many Indians consider white Christians to be worse than Muslims."

That's only because they never had to play - Muslims and Indians!

39 posted on 10/30/2010 2:55:58 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Niuhuru

Those bastards are living the life of luxury. Why these folks even have electricity!

Now here's a guy who's got brand new siding. Can you imagine who much THAT cost the taxpayers?

40 posted on 10/30/2010 2:56:53 PM PDT by stormer
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