Posted on 10/05/2010 12:14:16 PM PDT by pinochet
This post is inspired by the tragic death of an 18 year old Rutgers University student, who committed suicide after his room mate secretly filmed him having sex with another man. Apparently, the student was so humiliated, that he felt he could not go on living. It is not known if the young man's family was aware of his sexual behavior. A link to the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20018574-504083.html
I do not support the liberal gay agenda. But heterosexual men need to start talking openly about difficult issues, which they never talk about with other men. There is no denying that heterosexual men are more insecure about their sexual orientation, than heterosexual women. If women notice that a certain woman happens to be beautiful, they have no problem talking about that woman's beauty. When women notice the beauty of other women, they talk about it openly, without having any concerns that someone will question their sexual orientation.
Men are of course open in admiring the beauty of women. But when a man notices that another man is very good-looking, he will not mention it openly, out of fear that other men will question his sexual orientation. It is hard for some men to openly state that a few men are better looking than many women, even if there is no sexual attraction involved.
That male macho culture, may have contributed to the climate that led the young man to take his own life. I think it is possible for heterosexual men to get in touch with their feminine side, without endorsing the liberal gay agenda.
There is no guarantee that the young man from Rutgers University would have remained gay for the rest of his life, if he had lived. In Britain, Oscar Wilde's teenage boyfriend, Alfred Douglas, married a woman later in life, and became a pro-family conservative Catholic in the 1920s. One of Britain's brightest pro-family conservative politicians in the early 1990s, Michael Portillo, was revealed to have had a gay relationship in college. In the 1990s, Portillo was the British Defence Secretary and was happily married to a woman, and he was in line to succeed John Major as Prime Minister. But gay militants in Britain used the revelations of his college sex life, to destroy his career.
That sucks.
The thread got pulled. I really felt like he was seeing it from our point of view.
I understand how he feels but his point of view is rather self centered and gives no room for the FR community.
The blogs have gotten out of hand and we are just asking for a little budge, some reciprocity, but he can’t see beyond his nose.
Jimmuh improved, somewhat and he is better for it.
Gotta run.
let me know when you two go out for drinks HG. I want you to have a special evening and will buy the first round. LOL
Not only NO but Hell NO!
TRUE. TRUE. imho.
No.
I took some flak from both the wife and daughter when I asked:
“How would this have turned out if he had been videotaped with a girl?”
Oh, God... Names? Aaaaggghhh!!!.
I´ll stand anywhere else. But at home 35 years the wife and I care to keep a clean bathroom, thanks.
God bless him!!
Thank him for me!
I agree, I think my point, nor very cleary stated, was that a normal, grounded kid, probably couldn’t be influenced easily toward homosexuality. Or perhaps other immoralities.
I know, if I hadn’t had great parents, sometimes I shudder ar what I might have become. But, of course, infants have not had any “raising”, and if you don’t know any better, well you can get lost.
This young Rutgers man had posted vidios of himself masturbating on the web.
Speaking for myself I have never been attracted to men. I like women, redheads, blondes, brunettes, etc. Don’t see how any male could like a dude gay sex is gross.
>> There is no denying that heterosexual men are more insecure about their sexual orientation, than heterosexual women.
The foundation of your argument is a fallacy.
But what I really want to know is whether or not you’ve stopped beating your wife.
Children are very easily influenced. That’s why traditionally parents were always careful about what books they read, movies they watched (once movies etc were invented), what friends they had, and so on. Children have always been known to be easily corruptible, since their values and judgement are not firmly rooted.
And since they are emotionally dependent, they are very easily influenced by those with whom they have emotional ties.
GREAT post DJ
Thanks. I was just connecting the dots. :-)
Simply put, sodomy is a behavior. It is not a state of being. Like any other depraved behavior, under certain circumstances, many otherwise heterosexual men might be tempted to commit sodomy, particularly if he is weak when it comes to controlling his sexual urges and his conscience is not well formed.
I think anybody who’s worked something out for 35 years deserves my highest respect, not names, onedoug. Congrats!
´Very nice of you to say. Thank you.
All Good to You and Yours....
“Do all men notice that a few men are quite attractive”
I honestly could not look at a man and determine if he was “attractive” till I qit dring at 35 and a few years later I noticed something strange.
I now choke p and almost cry at movies which I never did before and I can tell if a man is good looking or not.
Never did either of those till I qit drinking
Maybe homos shold drink, a lot
The idea of “being a homosexual,” as in “sexual orientation” as an unchangeable factor in a person’s makeup, is quite recent, probably less than 100 years old.
All cultures have recognized the existence of the “effeminate man,” usually with something between amusement and contempt. But the idea of a reasonably masculine man being “a homosexual” is novel.
Most cultures assume most men are on some level bisexual to some extent. In many, if not most, it’s not the gender of one’s partner that is of moral or honor concern, it’s the “role” one plays. The dominant “masculine” role is honorable, the receptive “feminine” role is not.
The Greeks, for instance, assumed upper-class boys would go thru a phase as “the beloved” of a considerably older man, then get married and have children, and then get into relationships with one or more “beloveds” of their own, while still continuing the domestic relationship with the wife.
But the Greek attitude towards homosexual acts is far more complicated than either side of today’s dispute generally wants to deal with.
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